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Mr. DanHartog was trying to understand the need to pass an ordinance in regards to the Fairgrounds which falls under the jurisdiction of the Alameda County. In regards to Ordinance 1738, there was discussion of adding firearms to the list. There is a sidearm that the police officers carry that should be on the roster according to Section A of the definitions. He felt the Council really needed to understand what it was adopting. Carol Edgren, 4588 Del Valle Parkway, said Citizens for Personal Responsibility (CPR) was a group of citizens in Pleasanton that joined together in order to prevent the erosion of fundamental rights of American citizens. In regards to Ordinance 1719, she said the Police Chief has stated the ordinance will not address the issues of crime and violence. Even the Police Officers Association and one City Council member did not support this ordinance. She said all guns could be declared unsafe by the broad definition of the ordinance. Affordable guns are not unsafe and do save lives. Even the Governor had vetoed a like bill and the State' Attorney General did not support such a law. Regarding Ordinance 1738, she stated the Police Chief did not support it and felt it was unfair to gun dealers. She mentioned there have been no complaints. A Councilmember had stated this was a flawed law and the Planning Commission recommended against this ordinance. This ordinance will ban gun shows at the Fairgrounds causing an estimated $250,000 loss in revenue. The Citizens for Personal Responsibility feel these ordinances have constitutional ramifications and will subject the City to litigation if passed. A similar case is pending against the City of West Hollywood at a cost of approximately $300,000 and a similar case cost the County of Santa Clara County $250,000. She urged the City Council to reject the ordinances based on all the facts presented. At the very least, present it to the citizens for a vote. She mentioned that CPR was ready to pursue a legal battle if need be. Ms. Acosta explained there is no revenue received from the Fairgrounds. Duane Darr, 5334 Avenida Almendros, San Jose, gave the definition of the word fraud. He felt the ordinances were fraudulent regarding the lack of expertise used in defining the firearms on the roster. He said part of the fraud is that the ordinance allowed police officers to use Saturday Night Specials in their performance of duties. He felt the ordinance was too arbitrary in banning firearms as Saturday Night Specials. Another fraud is the use of Mr. Collins. Mr. Collins is a historian and does not have any engineering or technical background. He said the supporters claim the ordinance is to "ensure the health, safety and general welfare of the City of Pleasanton residents." This is the most serious fraud. It ignores the evidence and research by nationally recognized experts and the type of legislation supported by this Council has the potential to increase deaths and injuries. He said this is a political ploy to get rid of firearms. The consequences of all this fraud is that the chances to investigate or implement effective violence prevention programs have been neglected. He urged Council to reconsider its decision. Robert Strawn, 2668 Lin Gate Court, felt if this process went to an election it would divide the City. He said the Council needed to work on keeping the community together. Pleasanton City Council 3/03/98 Minutes 24