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DRAFT Ms. Stern referred the matter to Mr. Tassano and inquired if most of the improvements were mid-term. Mr. Tassano stated that most of the improvements that have been identified are more clear-case improvements of what will be in the model rather than in the General Plan. Chairperson Arkin noted that there are stop signs on Valley A venue from Harvest Park Middle School to the Alameda County Fairgrounds and that these stop signs appear to be working well. He inquired if staff agreed with this assessment. Mr. Tassano replied that the stop signs are working well now with an acceptable level of service. He noted that the important thing to consider regarding putting in or taking out traffic signals is that if the stop signs are left in place, the model would indicate what the intersections would look like in 20 years. He stated that he would normally be opposed to doing a model that shows a stop sign where most indications show it needs a signal. He added that this would be a good tool, knowing that the neighborhood is in favor of retaining the stop signs and not having signals, to see what the intersections with stop signs would look like 20 years from now in terms of back- ups and delays. He noted that the point is not necessarily whether or not it will be included in the General Plan but to look at a comparison of what the Commission wants or does not want to do. In response to Chairperson's inquiry on why traffic signals were not being considered for the section closer to the Fairgrounds, Mr. Tassano replied that he was not aware of the reasons why Hansen Drive was chosen and not the Paseo Santa Cruz intersections; he noted that the section by the Fairgrounds has two signals at the ends and a stop sign in the middle. 5. Valley .^.veRHe at Blaelcsire Drive traffic sif!nal not comvatible with community character: Vote: 3-2 Yes: No: Commissioners Arkin, Fox, and Pearce. Commissioners Olson and Blank 6. Valley i\ veRlle at CrestliRe Read traffic signal not comvatible with community character: Vote: 3-2 Yes: No: Commissioners Arkin, Fox, and Pearce. Commissioners Olson and Blank. 7. Valley A veRlle at HaIlSeR Drive Vote: 3-2 Yes: No: traffic sif!nal not comvatible with community character: Commissioners Arkin, Fox, and Pearce. Commissioners Olson and Blank. Commissioner Olson commented that the Minutes ofthe January I 1,2005 Joint City Council Workshop included extensive discussion regarding how models are used and how the process works and should work. He indicated that there are some great ideas, some from current Commissioners, and inquired if any of these have been resolved at the Council level in past year or ifthey are still in the position of multiple opinions about what the model should do, how to interpret results, and planning for traffic flow. DRAFT EXCERPTS: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, July 26, 2006 Page 7 of8