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confirmed a mayoral candidate could spend $50,000 in the time a City Council candidate spends <br /> $15,000 because of the two mayoral election cycles over four years. <br /> In response to Councilmember Narum's inquiries, Assistant City Attorney Seto confirmed the definition <br /> of "person" would include a Political Action Committee (PAC) and be subject to the $1,000 voluntary <br /> contribution limit. She advised there is a situation where a PAC independent of a candidate can make <br /> its own expenditures. She confirmed it would be permissible for an individual to give $1,000 to a <br /> candidate and $1,000 to a PAC which in turn gave the money to the same candidate so long as the <br /> PAC is not controlled by the same candidate. <br /> In response to Councilmember Narum's inquiries, Assistant City Attorney Seto clarified there are no <br /> limits on what an individual can spend in support of a candidate independently however there are <br /> reporting requirements requiring disclosure papers if the sum is over $1,000. She confirmed an <br /> individual theoretically could independently place a $950 ad for a candidate in the local newspaper <br /> without having to disclose they did it. <br /> In response to Councilmember Narum's inquiries, Assistant City Attorney Seto clarified the City's <br /> proposed voluntary contribution limits are designed to match State law so the election period for a 2022 <br /> election would be defined as January 1, 2021, to December 31, 2022. She confirmed the election <br /> period for a 2024 Councilmember's election would be defined as January 1, 2021, to December 31, <br /> 2024. <br /> In response to Councilmember Testa's inquiry, Assistant City Attorney Seto confirmed independent <br /> outside spending limits would remain unchanged. <br /> In response to Mayor Brown's inquiries, Assistant City Attorney Seto confirmed a Councilmember <br /> would have four years to accept up to $1,000 in contributions but a Mayor would have two years. She <br /> confirmed staff is recommending a $1,000 donor to a 2020 campaign could give $1,000 again for the <br /> candidate's next campaign mirroring the applicable State law. She advised it is the next election cycle <br /> where unspent monies could count against repeat donors. <br /> In response to Mayor Brown's inquiries, Assistant City Attorney Seto confirmed the current voluntary <br /> expenditure limits are not subject to enforcement. She advised non-voluntary expenditure limits have <br /> been challenged in court which is why the 2008 introduction of the City's expenditure limits made clear <br /> they are voluntary and not subject to any penalties. She noted staff does not track the limit but advised <br /> the court of public opinion would track excessive expenditures. She confirmed that if a candidate <br /> received more than $1,000 in contributions from an individual it would be their responsibility to return <br /> the excess funds. <br /> Mayor Brown opened public comment. <br /> Jan Batcheller expressed confusion over the time being spent on this matter. She advised that those <br /> with the largest expenditures do not always win the elections and noted incumbents have a giant <br /> advantage. She suggested for equity having a limit for incumbents but not new candidates running for <br /> the first time. She questioned why a mayoral candidate needs more than a City Council candidate. <br /> Herb Ritter expressed disapproval of capping new candidates from fundraising to get their message <br /> out. He reported a new candidate has not defeated an incumbent since Ben Tarver in 1988. He noted <br /> he lost as a first-time candidate in 2016 even after raising $40,000. He urged City Council to stop <br /> making more rules and to start enforcing the current ones. He expressed support for $1,000 per donor <br /> to eliminate big-money interests and transparency but urged City Council not to discourage new <br /> candidates by restricting their ability to get their messages out. He suggested capping incumbents but <br /> not new candidates. He urged the Council to follow State law and not over-regulate campaigns even if <br /> voluntary. <br /> City Council Minutes Page 5 of 15 April 20, 2021 <br />