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Shareef Mandavi commented that in Pleasanton the main concern is the use of e-cigarettes /vaping. He added the context of this issue relative to the location of the potential affected businesses is important in that Pleasanton values `family' and as such the Pleasanton business community should also prioritize and represent this rather than solely what is good for the economy. Trustee Jamie Yee added if there is too strict of a ban, it will push underage tobacco use to an illegal market. She added storefronts are not the sole location where underage youth acquire tobacco products, so penalizing businesses will not solve underage tobacco use. Instead, there are alternative options to decreasing youth tobacco use including schools increasing tobacco education. Ms. Yee proposed the sale of e-cigarettes be limited to "tobacco stores" only, and not allowed in general tobacco retailers, and indicated she does not support a prohibition of possession under 21, as it would be almost impossible to enforce. Christina Nystrom Mantha voiced concerns regarding a lapse in tobacco education at Pleasanton schools. Councilmember Julie Testa asked for clarification as to why prohibition of possession under 21 is not enforceable, sharing her perspective there should not be a criminalization of youth, but there should be an opportunity to remove it from the underage youth's possession without resulting in criminal charges. Assistant City Attorney Larissa Seto clarified the police department asked for the current tobacco prohibition (under the age of 18) so when they encounter youth in possession of tobacco products they are able to confiscate it; this results in a citation, not a criminal charge. Trustee Jamie Yee is concerned with how this would be enforceable and gave the example of parents holding social get togethers for underage youth, and the challenges in enforcing a social hosting ordinance. Christina Nystrom Mantha added that difficulty in enforcing, doesn't mean we shouldn't have a prohibition. Michael Li commented the Pleasanton community is more than 80,000, with the average resident around 40 years old and having children, so that health is more important to this community than the profits of the businesses and more education should be provided to help prevent tobacco use and addition. Steve Baker commented while he doesn't want youth to use e-cigarettes, this topic could be weighed as a personal choice versus potential government overreach, and it is hard to determine what position should be taken. He referenced other industry benchmarks to look at as examples, including existing regulations on alcohol and cigarettes: Do the new restrictions make sense, and are they overly restrictive or not restrictive enough? Context is important and if there is a current framework in place for restrictions imposed for youth but permitted for adults this topic could fall into the same portfolio; there should be consistency and City Council should consider this when making its decision. Christina Nystrom Mantha reminded the EVC members while the negative health effects are a top concern, as the EVC's role includes considering the livelihood of businesses when making recommendations.