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Commissioner Nagler: Well, could you detail what seems to be the observation at Starbucks in <br /> town as far as what the average queues are? <br /> Commissioner Balch: That was the base they used? <br /> Commissioner Nagler: Yeah, that was the base they used because obviously it varies by which <br /> establishment are we talking about. <br /> Luchini: Okay, so the traffic study focuses on the Starbucks that you just mentioned and it was <br /> observed, if I remember correctly, I think it's four days and over the course of that four days the <br /> average was somewhere between 9-14. <br /> Commissioner Allen: And they're recommending 12. They said for the peak time didn't <br /> Hexagon say you needed 12? And that's what you're saying? <br /> Weinstein: At the 95th percentile on the four observed days there was a range from 9 to 12 and <br /> then Hexagon, the traffic consultant who prepared the traffic report observed a maximum of 14 <br /> vehicles in the queue. <br /> Commissioner Balch: And staff is recommending 12. <br /> Commissioner Allen: And that's what Hexagon recommended I assume. Staff is <br /> recommending that based on the data. <br /> Weinstein: Correct. <br /> Commissioner Balch: And there's 11 now. <br /> Commissioner Brown: The 12 by the way is at the 95th percentile. <br /> Commissioner Allen: And this is the Starbucks at...? <br /> Weinstein: Bernal at Safeway; the Gateway Shopping Center. <br /> Commissioner Brown: I don't know if it's a factor for just me or if it is for others. If I get to that <br /> Starbucks and I'm the 13th or 14th car, I'll park and go in or I'll park and go into the Starbucks <br /> next door at the Safeway as an alternative. I'm just saying it's a factor to consider. <br /> Commissioner O'Connor: So very much like the Starbucks at the Safeway, this proposal also <br /> has, as far as I can see cars back into the parking lot, and that makes it very problematic for <br /> Starbucks and Safeway because people can't get in and out of parking stalls. I mean I don't <br /> even go into that parking lot whether I'm a walk in or drive through. I don't go through there. <br /> Commissioner Brown: Well, that Safeway actually competes with the gas bar right next door. <br /> Chair Ritter: Are we at questions? <br /> Commissioner Allen: So normally when we approve projects we approve let's say a drive-in. <br /> Let's say Starbucks went out of business here and this was being considered for a Jack in the <br /> Box or some other use. Would that be allowed? Or would that come back to us with a different <br /> Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 2 of 20 <br /> and it's roughly <br /> about 8-9 cars in each side. <br /> Chair Ritter: Okay, so that's 20 cars coming in and this one's being proposed for 11. <br /> Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 1 of 20 <br />ermit as prescribed in Chapter <br /> 18.124.Massage establishments shall meet the requirements of Chapter 6.24. <br /> 3. The use may include incidental care such as bathing and trimming,provided that all operations are conducted entirely within a completely enclosed building <br /> which complies with specifications for soundproof construction prescribed by the chief building official. <br /> 4. The following conditions shall apply to bars,brew pubs,microbreweries and wine bars:(1)The zoning administrator finds that adequate parking is available for <br /> said use;(2)If the zoning administrator determines that the use will be or is creating odor problems,an odor abatement device determined to be appropriate by the <br /> zoning administrator shall be installed within the exhaust ventilation system to mitigate brewery odors;(3)The applicant is in compliance with all applicable <br /> requirements of Chapter 9.04 of this code;(4)If operation of the use results in conflicts pertaining to parking,noise,odors,traffic,or other factors,the zoning <br /> administrator may modify or add conditions to mitigate such impacts,or may revoke the zoning certificate for the use. <br /> 5. Convenience markets,tobacco stores,secondhand stores and pawn shops are not permitted or conditionally permitted. <br />on <br /> Page 18 of 19 <br /> shall drain to the sanitary sewer system and an area drain shall be installed in the enclosure area, <br /> providing a structural control such as an oil/water separator or sand filter. No other area shall <br /> P16-1349 and PUD-121 Planning Commission <br /> Page 11 of 19 <br />