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north side of A is a little more architectural as the applicant said they would do. The queueing which has been talked about —I'll just say I'm not stuck on the queueing because as Commissioner Nagler said it could be 10. It could be 13, but the concept of backing up on Johnson Court is one issue. We talked about any cars backing up on Owens Drive, I would be shocked if any one of us didn't get nasty grams from then on and I agree with Commissioner O'Connor that that intersection is already horrible. So you may be talking two more cars to 13 and you're on Owens, and if you block Hopyard we're going to be hearing it forever and I would hate to vote in favor of a project that would do that. Again, my comment about the plans labeled "Owens Court." Starbucks has a base for your evaluation as Bernal. I do worry that that is not comparable for the traffic and my only comment to that is I avoid that Starbucks because of its location and its circulation pattern. So I'm not being counted in there because it's so deep and so tricky to get through that parking lot to get to that Starbucks buried in there that I think we're misrepresenting what we might see here with the prominent freeway access and the volume of traffic going down Hopyard. Chair Ritter: I agree with the queueing. That's the big thing I notice. Drive - thru's are the biggest thing for fast food /fast drinks so I think that's the primary goal, is to get the queueing set up so it holds 12 to 14 plus cars going out onto Owens Drive in that location because it's right on and off the freeway. Like we said earlier, the Peet's across the street isn't a drive -thru so this will be the only drive -thru on this corner which is a huge opportunity for a service. I think designing the layout, like Commissioner O'Connor said, if it has to all be along the Owens Drive and have the queueing come all on the lot and maybe make it be one building or an L- shape, I think we might have to do that if that's the priority. If not, maybe we don't have drive -thru and it's a whole different design so those are my thoughts. Do you have enough to go back and get some ideas? Commissioner Balch: Any other questions you have of us? Chair Ritter: No? Okay, thank you. 7. MATTERS INITIATED BY COMMISSION MEMBERS No discussion was held or action taken. 8. MATTERS FOR COMMISSION'S REVIEW /ACTION /INFORMATION a. Reports from Meetings Attended (e.g., Committee, Task Force, etc.) Commissioner Balch: Bike /Ped had a meeting but I apologize, I was the alternate, intended to go, but could not make it. Beaudin: October 4t", we're going to be with the City Council recommending that they ratify approval of the finalized task force; the 10 member task force, and then the PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, September 28, 2016 Page 31 of 32