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Commissioner Brown: Yes, why not just take the drive -thru to the driveway <br />Luchini: They have three parking spaces there so I think it was an attempt to fit a trash <br />enclosure and get those three additional spaces to be conforming with the actual <br />requirements. <br />Chair Ritter: They have six don't they? <br />Luchini: They have six total in that area. To go straight through the drive -thru and the <br />trash enclosure takes two spaces. <br />Commissioner Brown: And you couldn't recover six spaces by extending that over? <br />This is a workshop and I'm not trying to design from the dais here but it just seems to <br />me that we're creating a traffic nightmare forcing it around and past traffic backing out of <br />all of those spaces and then potentially having to get stopped by people trying to exit <br />the drive -thru. If people are just looking to get their coffee and go, I'd rather get them to <br />go and not cross back across so that's why I was asking the question. Again, maybe it's <br />a fairer question for the applicant. <br />Luchini: I think staff would acknowledge and sought an ideal circulation pattern through <br />there. I'm not sure that you'd be able to recover three or actually six of those parking <br />spaces with that design, but again, it's a PUD so there is flexibility in the standards and <br />if that's the direction the Commission wants to go, you'd have to make that <br />recommendation to the applicant. <br />Commissioner Balch: Before you do then, I'll just make a comment that the Starbucks <br />that this is designed after is the Starbucks on Airway Boulevard in Livermore. So you <br />call Livermore and they have this exact plan. <br />Commissioner Brown: Yes, and I've sat in that queue. <br />Commissioner Balch: I've parked in that parking lot and have been seen in the queue. <br />THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED. <br />Galen Grant, Applicant: Good evening. Thank you. Good to be back. We've already <br />gotten heavily into this project and you know this site has been really interesting. It's <br />been a challenge. Just to give you a little bit of history and this is probably literally the <br />20th site plan that we've done and so it's been a tremendous labor of love to get here. <br />So what we have right now, what we're removing is a pretty nasty looking building that's <br />ready to go. It's kind of outlived its life, and we initially proposed a singular building that <br />would allow for a longer queueing along the backside. It was concealed. We submitted it <br />to the staff and had some very productive work sessions. We talked about what the City <br />would like, what Mr. Mash would like, and we used a lot of sketch paper. I think it's fair <br />to say staff had some sketches of their own and one of the points the staff, representing <br />the City, really was concerned about was, how do we get as much commercial frontage <br />on Owens and how do we provide all of the other aspects of the development that Mr. <br />Mash would like to see here, and can we do that in one singular building. It became <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, September 28, 2016 Page 19 of 32 <br />