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Commissioner Balch: Okay, thank you. <br />Commissioner Allen: I have another question and it's thinking about the Starbucks study <br />they did at Safeway. What you pointed out is that shopping center has two Starbucks; <br />one's in the store in Safeway and one's the drive -thru. So therefore when people come <br />to visit Starbucks there's two choices they have so the drive -thru may not be getting the <br />maximum capacity as if there was just one. So, do we have data or could we get data <br />on what some other Starbucks stand -alone drive - thru's that might be around a busy <br />freeway corridor? <br />Commissioner Nagler: Well, specifically the Starbucks being put outside of..... <br />Commissioner Allen: The Rose Pavilion? <br />Commissioner Nagler: Yes. <br />Commissioner Allen: Is that operational yet? <br />Weinstein: It's not operational yet. There is one also in the Vintage project at Bernal and <br />Stanley which I think is a drive -thru? <br />Commissioner Allen: That's not necessarily freeway. <br />Weinstein: That's not freeway, no. That's a good point. <br />Commissioner Nagler: Good question. What was the queue allowed in the Rose <br />Pavilion one? <br />Weinstein: I want to say it was 12 cars. <br />Commissioner Balch: But that queue could go into the parking lot and not spill onto the <br />street. <br />Commissioner Allen: So it's less risk. There's a buffer zone. <br />Commissioner Balch: That's right and we talked about that because we were talking <br />about the exiting. The thing with that is that it's all drive. If you drove around it and exit <br />almost back the same way you came in. <br />Commissioner Brown: Nancy, I was just going to add that there is a stand -alone <br />Starbucks within '/4 mile of this location right by the Home Depot across from the <br />FedEx/Kinkos. <br />Commissioner Allen: Right, but it's still different in terms of where some of these... like <br />Hopyard. Anyway, we'll get to that later. <br />Commissioner Brown: This is further apart than the one I was talking about but it's <br />close. <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, September 28, 2016 Page 15 of 32 <br />