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Beaudin: I think the discussion we're having right now allows us, with a PUD, to potentially put some additional parameters around change of use which we might want to be that specific on if that's a concern. Commissioner Allen: Okay, thanks. Commissioner Balch: So on page 16 of 18 on permitted uses or conditionally permitted uses. I was going with what Gerry said earlier, but the C -C uses that are requested are circled so "restaurants and soda fountains, not including drive -ins or take -out food establishments" is being requested as a permitted use and I apologize because I see that we have a drive -thru, drive -in —that is not this, right? So would that be the second one underneath and therefore it's conditional but they're going back? Why isn't it circled I guess is what I'm asking. Or, how do I read that? Maybe I need some help. I'm on 16 of 18 at this point. Commissioner O'Connor: At this point it has to be conditional. Commissioner Balch: I would think so because it's not being requested as permitted so it would be conditional, but the design has the drive -thru so how can you reconcile that please? Beaudin: So it's a fair question and I think one of the questions we have for you tonight is do you support the list of uses that are included for the report. And I think in the question I hear direction to make sure that we're being real clear about whether or not it's a restaurant use with a drive -thru or whether it's a restaurant use without a drive -thru and conditionally permitted only could be a concern. Commissioner Balch: Actually, you just clarified it now that you say it that way, it actually clarifies it. I'm catching up to speed I can see this right now, but the reason I ask is when I read what they were asking for for the PUD, I would have expected the "c" to be circled as well in that line because it said these are the uses they're asking. So I didn't know they were asking for that one to be conditional. Does that make sense? Beaudin: And I guess my question is, do we have a sub - category or different definition for the coffee shop which took it out of the restaurant realm completely. Commissioner Balch: I think you're right, but I think I'm actually trying to interpret it, if I understand it correctly. I'm asking for clarification because I'm now confused. In a PUD we ask for these permitted uses and then we say, these are the uses we would like permitted or conditional, typically the ones I've seen, right? And then typically not listed is generally considered prohibited unless you get a PUD amendment. So what I'm saying to you is, I read this and I said, oh, the conditional is not circled because I thought we were going down the C -C column and circling everything we wanted permitted or conditional. Given that the second one was not circled, I was wondering why they hadn't circled it, given.....1 apologize.... do you kind of see where I'm trying to.... Beaudin: C -C should be circled. I think that's the answer to your question PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, September 28, 2016 Page 14 of 32