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Commissioner Allen: Okay, thank you for clarifying that. So I heard two needs today. First of all, I think there is a divided community and I don't know if what we're seeing today is representative or not. So I would like to see a survey done of all residents everywhere so we can find out two things; number one, I'd like to find out what their priorities are in terms of the need as Ed started with; the first speaker -the need for a clubhouse for the Boy Scout meetings, and how many people think that's the top need versus how many want a public restroom. I'd like to find out what the priority of the community is and then secondly, find out just where they would place it and use that as a piece of input for us. Where I come out personally is I'd be open to it, but I agree with Commissioner Nagler about we're creating sort of a public space with private dollars to be maintained by a yet -to -be -named homeowner's association, but you know what, it can be done. So I do see problems later but I guess the homeowner's association will just have to deal with it or come back if there's an issue with what we grant them in terms of conditions of approval. However, I believe very strongly it's inappropriate to use City money to fund, to take over this responsibility for the land and the restroom and that's because —not just because it's in the Parks and Rec Plan because Commissioner Balch is absolutely right that plans could change, but mainly because most of our public parks that are truly neighborhood parks (which this is) don't have public restrooms. I think we're setting the wrong precedent because I know the park I live near which supports about 500 or 600 people requested bathrooms several years ago and we were turned down because of consistency; for the same reason you were given by staff— neighborhood parks, the City is not intending to maintain those bathrooms and I would rather that our City money be used on facilities that support a broader community. And in terms of logistics, I do think if it's a clubhouse, if the clubhouse is the highest need, I would think that would be more near Valley Trails Drive, I guess Lot 37. If the highest need would be consistent with speakers today it would be the restroom then it should be near the park and if it's near the park I definitely think we should have some parking ideally on something like Lot 10. Maybe we could get creative with the dead -end street but I think we need more than that so that's what I'm thinking. Chair Ritter: Okay, great. I appreciate everybody's feedback. I value it. I also served six years on Park and Rec and sat through the master plan and we had the discussion what's a community park, what's a neighborhood park and we have 10 community parks and about 33 neighborhood parks. But one thing I noticed is that Alviso Adobe is classified as a community park at 7 acres and it has a bathroom. Valley Trails Park is 6.1 acres and this is one we're talking about and it doesn't have a bathroom and it sounds like there is a need for more bathrooms in these parks. And if we're creating a revenue stream for the City I would like to see that as far as what taxes are incurred from this as compared to what the church is paying and maybe those taxes that we bring in through that would help support the bathroom maintenance, etc. so it's an added benefit but we're getting some revenue out of it. So I am in favor of re- looking at all of the neighborhood parks and bathrooms. I think it's important to be able to go when you have to go and I mean, there's a lot of homes on this map. There's not just 37 homes we're talking about that would be able to use it and so I think I'm in favor of really analyzing it and making sure the numbers make sense. Commissioner Balch: I think I can get Commissioner Nagler on this. The argument that we don't lose developer money to build something and then they continue to maintain it PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 31, 2016 Page 23 of 58