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Dolores Bengston days, when we got the park renovated we got $550,000 from the City to redo the park in the early 90's and we found out that studies show that if you use the park, that cuts down on crime and loitering and that type of thing. If you're not using the park and that's how it was in Valley Trails before, we used to have a lot of vandalism in the park, but now we don't have as much, although we had a little graffiti this week, but we don't have it because people are using the park. So I know people are concerned about vandalism, but the sports park we have as an example, and that is also why we need the extra parking. Nelson is the one that really needs extra parking so that the police and stuff can park right there should there be a need. So with that said, I'm going to go through my notes. We said 37 homes, but I agree with Ed, when we gave up the second entrance —there was a plan with two exits and entrances but now we were down to Lassen only. So that would give us 35 lots. Two lots, exactly, but Ponderosa is giving us one and we want the bathrooms for the reasons I've already said right here next to the park. Now I live down here and it may not look like it but that's a ways to go if you have a toddler. So we need the bathrooms and the clubhouse by the park, not on Valley Trails Drive. All right, so then we also have some issues about the 4 -way stop at Lassen instead of 2 -way, and Gerry, we talked about this, right? I haven't heard anything from traffic about this.... Chair Ritter: We'll ask the questions. You've got one minute left. Cox: Okay, so then we want the bathrooms open, two lots, definitely not on Valley Trails Road, and we always thought the City was —well, we're open to the City accepting the building or Ponderosa having their HOA pay for it. But Valley Trails HOA has been around since 1989 so the last two years they've tried to reorganize it with a different name because certain people wanted to change the name, but we're only $25 a year voluntary and the City has told me for years we're the most active HOA in the City. I mean as you all know, we've got the homes out of the flood zone and some other issues, so at $25 a year voluntary we can't commit, and Sandy brought up we might be paying for this. We're not committing to paying for this. Ponderosa is paying for these bathrooms and the maintenance or if they deed it to the City, you would. So either way, we're okay. We wanted it for 12 times a year; the use of the facility, but we do want the bathrooms all the time and I know you said 33 parks but I explained to you the difference. Those parks are usually more square than ours and that's it. Chair Ritter: Thank you. Thank you so much Connie. I appreciate all you're doing for the community there. That's the last speaker card. All right, does the applicant want to follow up? Okay, so now we'll close it and bring it back to the Commission. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED. Chair Ritter: This is a workshop so we're really not deciding anything. We're just giving direction to staff to go back and work with the applicant and we'll just start with discussion point Number 1: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 31, 2016 Page 15 of 58