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for Sunflower Hill. If it wasn't for Sunflower Hill, I wouldn't consider a General Plan Amendment. I'm on the same page as Nancy and Greg on that front. I'm still considering it in terms of the zoning. Like David I'd like to see something with less dense, more space between homes, better open space because as Greg pointed out it would be a very tough sell to the residents of the town to go beyond the state requirements that we have that already have been allocated. That's why I asked the question earlier in terms of can you do a trade -off and whether we can. So, I think it's a great use. I think the developer is being genuine and heartfelt. He spent 3 '/z years I think was the comment. There definitely is a need. I think you mentioned there are 900 families in Livermore and 700 in Pleasanton that have this need and we just don't have anything like this anywhere else in the City and I think it's a very interesting proposal that needs further refinement before I'd be prepared to make a decision. Chair Ritter: All right, did staff get enough information or are there any other ideas to enhance the design of the project? Commissioner Allen: I have an idea, sort of an idea. I'm wondering if we could do a community workshop of sorts around this project because sitting here, I'm hearing what both of you are saying. Maybe if there was.... making this up, 20 single family homes and with a little larger Sunflower Hill community, I could buy into this. I mean that's extreme, but I don't know, none of us know, what is that range. I also don't want this to turn into another referendum. I mean Lund Ranch was 50 homes. It was a different issue but it's a little less. And a lot of our projects that have been at this size are getting a lot of initiatives against them. So I think it would behoove us no matter which way we go on this to have some type of community workshop and bring in folks that could have an impact on traffic and others like Valley, Santa Rita, and others that are within a mile or a mile and one half in the downtown area to provide some input so you all and we all could calibrate what is sort of the range of acceptability. Then certainly the developer has the pocketbook so the developer is going to need to be looking at their tradeoffs. But that's a suggestion because I have a feeling that as people start to learn about this, there's going to be more and more interest and I don't want to have it just be a problem later on saying we didn't know and why did we approve a project like this if it gets approved. Beaudin: So we'll certainly take that into consideration. I appreciate the comment. I think what's interesting to me tonight is that it sounds like the Commission is leaning towards some pretty significant changes to the project. So what I'd like to do is go back and talk with the developer or the applicant here tonight and with Sunflower Hill and see if there is still a project, based on some of these comments, and then decide on our next steps, and certainly keep the Commission informed about those efforts. Ritter: Okay, great. So we'll conclude the workshop. I want to thank Sunflower Hill for being here and we appreciate all your involvement and it sounds like we still have a lot of information to go through so no decision's been made tonight and we appreciate you coming tonight. b. P16 -0828, City of Pleasanton Proposal of a policy that establishes a new project review procedure to consider the merits of legislative change applications for residential or mixed -use projects that have a residential component. This item was continued to the May 11, 2016 meeting. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, April 27, 2016 Page 39 of 43