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Hardy: 11 total, but you know, they're all over the map. You know, there's 42, 43, 2 at <br />44, and 3 at 45. <br />Commissioner Nagler: What Ponderosa's going to do is plot out the homes and build <br />them and then sell them. So someone is not going to come in and say I want or don't <br />want a bonus room? <br />Schroeder: We plot the houses before pulling building permits and then we offer it as <br />an option. <br />Commissioner O'Connor: So you pre- determine who's going to have a bonus room and <br />who is not. <br />Schroeder: Pam and I work closely together on these projects and as she mentioned, <br />we spent a lot of time with the neighbors when we committed to not building bonus <br />rooms on those 5 lots so they were lower FARs on those lots I think. The real driving <br />issue on this site was that when the property goes out to market, you try and get as <br />much money as you can for it. So technically if you come in here and you have an <br />amenity, you know there aren't 50 lots here, but it doesn't really lay out that well on a <br />smaller lot project. It doesn't make a lot of sense to have a big battle and put in a lot of <br />houses here that most people didn't want. We realize it made more sense to kind of do <br />fewer lots and frankly, almost as few lots as possible on this site and still try to make it <br />work and not have a property owner sell to some public builder who would try and build <br />a 30 lot tract or 35 lot tract or whatever. What kind of drove that was being able to get <br />enough house on the lots to make it all work financially. It has to kind of make it work <br />and we invest millions and millions of dollars to try and make these things work. I know <br />you guys don't care about that but that's just how all this works, and so in doing so, we <br />try to be really thoughtful about the houses and how we design them to try and mitigate <br />some of those concerns. So the Plan 1 is a little bit wider but it's a mastered down plan. <br />It only has 3 bedrooms and a loft upstairs so it's got a lot of single story roof. The Plan 2 <br />is a little bit more vertical on part of it, but really the whole half of that house is only a <br />single story. It's a garage except on some of the lots we can put a bonus room. So we <br />know we ended up a little bit over on some of the lots with the FAR, but in plotting it the <br />way after we saw your concern, we looked at it and plotted it in a way that made sense <br />because we don't like to plot the same houses next to each other or across the street if <br />we can. We try to make it varied, and we were able to get to a 40% average FAR <br />because some of them are down to 25% or 28% or something like that because there's <br />a couple of larger lots there. So that's sort of what we tried to think of when this came <br />up, but I believe, I know it says Nolan Farms is 40% but I go back to when this issue <br />came up before and I've checked all those lots there and I believe there are houses in <br />Nolan Farms that are over 40% FAR. There are some pretty big houses on <br />10,000- square -foot lots out there. 4,200, 4,300 square feet, so I'm not sure exactly and I <br />don't have the history on that, but... there's a few lots in Nolan Farms over 40 %. There's <br />45 %, 45 %, 47 %, you know, there's a few, so it didn't seem like that was looked at <br />before. Anyways, that's sort of how we got here. So with your forbearance, if you could <br />live with an average of 40 %, we think we can make it work and I think people would like <br />what they see. <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, March 23, 2016 Page 18 of 46 <br />
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