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Ritter: I'll just add my two cents. I always say if a plan is wrong change it, but just don't tweak it all the time. But I am in favor of supporting the General Plan. It's been updated as of January 2015 so it actually has been constantly reviewed, but I'm not totally opposed to maybe going to four homes to maybe get some extra amenities that they might need to make this work on this land's location, but I really don't want to visualize three driveways coming out on that road. That's kind of my big feeling and I'll just go right into the next one and start there unless you guys finish, but I would love to see one entrance and access off of that road versus three and that's why I go to the five homes because it is kind of a busy road and I like the flasher light idea. I just don't want to see three driveways coming out onto that road, so that's my though. Let's go this way. O'Connor: Well, you know, I'll agree with you. I don't want to see three driveways either so there's already an existing one. They're proposing a second one and I think we can get three homes in here with only two driveways. And I do see that as the problem with the layout. I think the lots do need to be bigger and I think we can do that with the existing driveway more. Balch: Maybe a point of clarification than a question. This driveway is right up against Dublin Canyon Road which was a point of contention, a question earlier in the staff report, is that there is only a 20 -foot buffer and it was going to be for a bioswale I believe for a bit of it. So I kind of wanted to ask, you know, in light of your comments, do you want to see the road move deeper into the lot? O'Connor: No, so I don't envision this road, this court being here. I envision only a driveway coming in to access two lots, yes, and the other driveway existing for the church we could come off of that to access the other lots. So no, I'm looking at this entire road going away. Ritter: I would just love to have just one road come out. O'Connor: Well, we're going to have at least two. Ritter: Well, you're not counting the current access road. O'Connor: Yes, that's the second one. Balch: Okay, so I'll follow -up. So, obviously losing the other comment element, going with three, I fully agree with prior comments that I don't want to see three driveways or four with the existing, so I would like to see some consolidation into a singular primary driveway off of Dublin Canyon and then some spoking of some nature off of that. If it is this or something similar to this in light of three, I'd like to see it set back further from Dublin Canyon Road because the rural nature is exactly what it sounds like this body is supporting. So unfortunately, I think you're going to be pushing towards the creek enough to have this noticeable buffer. And primarily my comment, and I'm going to pick up on something that's going to go later one, primarily my reasoning would be so you could meander the sidewalk if this City's going to require it so as not to remove the heritage trees that are on this particular access. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, January 13, 2016 Page 20 of 26