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Chair O'Connor inquired if vehicular traffic is a pass- through or if there is actually an access from the back of the shopping center. Mr. Luchini replied that those who park at the rear would have to walk to the southern end of the shopping center and pass through, or go around to the north along Mission Drive as there is no pass- through to the shopping center on the north end. Commissioner Balch noted from the site map that there's a breezeway. Chair O'Connor noted that someone might park in the back to come through that breezeway to the front doors of the few stores at southern "L" part of the shopping center, but those going to Raley's would certainly not park in the back as it would be too big of a walk. Commissioner Balch noted that in the Vintage Hills Shopping Center, there is a little Montessori school that has an area in the back similar to this. He asked staff to explain that situation, such as if staff learned some unforeseen issues from there. Mr. Dolan replied that there has been an evolution from staff's position on this matter, and staff reconsidered whether or not they would want to put children right next to a truck going by, protected by a steel fence that would break or collapse if the truck ran off into it. Commissioner Balch stated that fairly recently, he has actually seen a playground fence like this snap from a vehicle going through it at the Quarry Lane School in the Valley Business Park. He noted that the car plowed through the fence and fortunately, the playground was empty as it was after hours. Chair O'Connor inquired, without actually seeing the length of the buildout of the play area, if the play area fence is contiguous all the way to an entrance or exit from the school facility or if someone will actually walk the children out to that area. Mr. Luchini replied that there is no direct connection between the playground and the school, so the students would be physically walked from Suites 3 and 4 through the breezeway to the enclosed playground. Chair O'Connor stated that as far as the fence collapsing, other protections could be added such as bollards or cement - filled pipes spaced so far apart that a truck would have to plow through. He indicated, however, that he did not know how easily those come out. Mr. Luchini stated that staff has made recommendations in the staff report, but the additional considerations are certainly at the purview of the Commission. Commissioner Ritter inquired if the neighbors along the east side ever complain about noise from trucks going up and down that alley. Mr. Luchini replied no, not to his knowledge. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, November 12, 2014 Page 27 of 35