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added that, again, it is honoring the neighbor feedback to not go too far today <br />and evaluate where we are later on, and if everything is good, it can happen in <br />six months. <br />Commissioner Allen indicated that she can support the application with those three <br />changes. She added that she is also fine with the employees working there during that <br />additional time from midnight to 5:00 a.m. <br />Commissioner Piper stated that it seemed like the push back the Commission was <br />hearing was from the standpoint of traffic and noise and not necessarily from the hours <br />of operation. She indicated that she does not necessarily support the change because <br />it does not feel like it is what the Commission was hearing the pushback on. <br />Commissioner Allen replied that she can totally hear what Commissioner Piper was <br />saying. She stated that the way she is thinking about the difference between <br />12:00 midnight and 1:00 a.m. is a noise issue. She indicated that there are more cars in <br />that store, more lights, more activity and people shutting doors, and just more activity <br />than has ever happened before. With respect to the alcohol sales, she stated that she <br />did not want to say no alcohol because the applicant could not make a good business <br />case and would end up possibly with this gas station going out of business, and she is <br />not sure what the better use is. She noted, however, that the residents are concerned <br />about the crime and the noise and the loitering that has come up a lot, and the alcohol <br />could drive some additional people in too. She added that cutting back the hours <br />minimizes that potential risk there, and this was sort of a compromise to show that the <br />Commission values the neighbors' input as well as the applicant's position, allowing him <br />to get started, assuming everything is good, and where we hope it would end up after <br />the Commission evaluates and possibly approves it in six months. <br />Chair O'Connor indicated that the applicant has already agreed to bring down the <br />timeframe for noise purposes on the car wash to 9:00 p.m. during standard time and <br />asked Commissioner Allen if she could live with closing at 9:00 p.m. instead 8:00 p.m. <br />for alcohol sales. <br />Commissioner Allen stated that she could live with that. <br />Commissioner Ritter inquired what WalMart's cutoff for alcohol is <br />Commissioner Balch replied that he believes it is 11:00 p.m., which is what the applicant <br />used as basis. He indicated that he is probably not so supportive of Commissioner <br />Allen's comments on the three items, and the reason he does not support the alcohol to <br />only 8:00 p.m. is because several times he has been at various events in the area and <br />that is about the time they send someone to restock. <br />Commissioner Balch stated that with respect to the carwash, he could agree with the <br />time. He stated that the 10:00 p.m. was definitely causing concern with running the car <br />wash that late, but he does hear the applicant agreeing for 9:00 p.m. during standard <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 27, 2014 Page 28 of 44 <br />