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Mr. Dolan replied that he did not know off the top of his head but that it might have been a few feet taller than 45 feet. He noted that the guidelines that were adopted for all of these sites had a numerical height limit that was pretty high, something like 60 feet. He added that there are these other guidelines that were referenced earlier this evening regarding compatibility with the adjoining neighborhood. He explained that typically, when those compatibility guidelines are implemented, if it says that it cannot be more than one story above the adjoining neighborhood, usually it is referring to something that is across the street and not necessarily 250 feet across an Arroyo. He added that the other thing is usually that would lead to doing something like a stepping, which does not necessarily have to be all the way across the site, but with the edge, and that is, in fact, what happened on that project. He pointed out that if the Commission recalls, the height on the rear end towards the Arroyo was reduced, and more height was pushed forward to the front. Chair O'Connor commented that the building height typically follows about ten feet per story plus the roofline or whatever the roof pitch is, so that a four -story would be somewhere between about 40 to 50 feet. Mr. Dolan said yes. He added that it is starting to get a little more than that because people like the higher ceilings and just the equipment in- between takes up a lot of space. He noted that that is a rule that was valid for a long time, but it is starting to creep up a little more than that. Commissioner Piper inquired if the Summerhill project was also zoned mixed -use with a minimum on 30 units an acre. Mr. Dolan said yes. Commissioner Piper inquired if that is a four -story property. Mr. Dolan replied that part of it is. Commissioner Allen inquired how this property was ranked during the Housing Element Update relative to some of the other properties. Ms. Wallis replied that the ranking is included in the staff report as Exhibit E. She noted that the highest ranking scored a 27, and the Irby - Kaplan -Zia and CM Capital properties both scored a 24. Mr. Dolan commented that was high for the 4th highest score. Mr. Dolan then re- stated for the Commission that staff does not need any decision tonight. He indicated that staff heard that it wanted to keep both of these actions on the table: one is an addition and one is a subtraction. He added that if there are not any more additional thoughts, the adequate instruction for staff to move forward is "Yes, we want to keep those in the dialogue" and staff will do that. He noted that staff will PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, June 25, 2014 Page 24 of 29