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Ms. Harryman replied that if the Commission cannot make the findings currently, it could condition the approval based on that. Commissioner Allen inquired which of the findings would be most applicable to traffic. She indicated that it was not clear to her which finding would deal with traffic impacts and the community, that she thinks it would be "A" but could argue that any one of them could potentially fit with traffic impacts. Ms. Harryman replied that it could be "A" but more likely "B." Commissioner O'Connor stated that he would only be more concerned if on June 17th the City Council, in hearing the numbers, does not fund the traffic - calming plan. He indicated that he does not personally have a problem with the timing because of the additional 20 students, but he is only thinking about what would happen if the Council did not fund the improvements for Black Avenue. Commissioner Ritter stated that according to Mr. Tassano, there are 700 cars in peak hour, which would increase to 740 vehicles with this proposal, assuming everyone would be driving, although some may be walking. He indicated that his feeling is, granted he is glad about this traffic - calming plan, this little proposal here will help the business and the neighborhood, and it is a service that is added, and he would not like to see it held up for a small percent of what he thinks would possibly be approved based on the need. He added that the Commission should think about it as knowing the City is going to work towards that rather than making it contingent upon that. He pointed out that 40 cars is such a small number; it is not 250 cars being added during peak hours. Commissioner Piper agreed with Commissioner Ritter. She stated that it seems like a tiny portion thinking it should make such a big impact. She added that it is terrific that this would further educate children. Commissioner Allen stated that she is really torn on this one right now, and the reason is that a small impact in one place and a small impact in another, and another small impact in still another all add up. She indicated that she looks more at the total traffic during the day because that is what the residents also have, and the residents may even be working during peak hours. She noted that just the addition of 20 students adds 1.5 percent to a roadway on a collector street, where the goal is generally 3,500 -4,000 vehicles a day, and this has close to 6,500 -7,000 vehicles. She pointed out that every one of this makes a difference. She added that it does not feel right to her if, for every small proposal like this that comes to the Commission, the Commission says it is small and so to go ahead and approve it. She indicated that it is just s a matter of principle, and the Commission did get two letters from residents that very clearly said they have been promised traffic - calming, that that is important, that they can support this if traffic- calming were in place, and to please respect that they are not looking for anything more. Commissioner Allen stated that with that said, that is clearly a good application, serving a need in the community, and added that the facility clearly has been successful with 20 students or it would not want to expand. She noted, however, that she wants to PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, June 11, 2014 Page 8 of 12