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Chair Olson stated that he was satisfied with the explanation the applicant gave about the four buildings and that he does not see any reason for adding to the cost by doing story poles. Commissioner Posson stated that he does not see it as a requirement and that he was only suggesting that as something the applicant may want to consider to give the residents a better sense of what the visual impact would be or would not be. He indicated that he would really leave that up to the developer in the discussions with the residents. He then addressed the methodology used to have discussions with the residents. He noted that the applicant had said that they reached out to people who had expressed an interest in the development. He indicated that to him, that is different from going out and sending a notice out to the neighborhood and asking them to come down and give their views about an apartment complex they are planning to construct. Chair Olson asked staff if the Work Session was noticed to everyone. Ms. Soo said yes. Chair Olson asked if the first Work Session was also noticed. Ms. Soo said yes. Mr. Dolan stated that he would also like to share with the Commission, which was alluded to a little bit, that City Manager Nelson Fialho and he actually hosted and invited the neighborhood to come to a meeting held in the Council Chamber, and that was a couple -hour dialogue. He continued that it was followed up with the neighbors agreeing to sending a small group, which resulted in yet another meeting with him, and they have been working through some of their issues and continue to do so. He noted that there may be some legal things, for example, the issue about the dogs, and the City Attorney is questioning whether that can be done. Julie Harryman stated that she has not researched that matter, but hearing it tonight, she is not entirely sure that is something the Commission is interested in. She indicated that she can certainly research whether or not it is even feasible to put a condition on the project that would not allow them to have dogs. Commissioner O'Connor stated that he does not know how many people have dogs in apartments versus houses. He added that obviously, they would have to be inside a unit and walked by owners, so they are not going to be left unattended in a back yard where they would be barking all day when no one is home; and if they are barking inside, they will only disturb other tenants who will then complain to management. He indicated that he does not really have a problem with dogs. Chair Olson stated that he is on that side as well. Commissioner Posson stated that that is where he is too. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, January 22, 2014 Page 17 of 22