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Mr. Rosen added that the system was put in place after they had several years of <br />issues, in response to ongoing problems in that particular location which had some <br />large growth Downtown. <br />Acting Chair Blank asked Mr. Rosen how he would juxtaposition a constant noise of <br />70 dBA or 80 dBA and peak noise that happens once, and if there is some industry <br />standard for parsing that out over the course of a period of time. <br />Mr. Rosen replied that there is a number of ways sound can be measured: acoustics <br />has is a number of metrics and those sounds can be averaged for five or ten minutes or <br />more; and there is a metric called the equivalent sound level, which is basically an <br />average, that comes up with a standard repeatable metric to use. <br />Commissioner Pearce inquired if communities generally come up with a standard when <br />putting together noise guidelines. <br />Mr. Rosen replied that he has seen it both ways. He stated that Pleasanton's standard <br />has a noise level but not a specific metric; one would have to use a little judgment when <br />looking at the meter and saying whether it repetitive peak or maximum continuous. He <br />added that it gives some guidance and requires a little interpretation as it is not <br />definitive like an equivalent sound level for a five - minute average. <br />Acting Chair Blank inquired if that is defined in this document, if there is a prevalence <br />among cities, and what is the most common practice. <br />Mr. Rosen replied that he sees an even spread: a very defined metric like LEQ, L -Max, <br />L30, statistically descriptor, and just a sort of qualitative maximum or continuous <br />repetitive sound level. He indicated that because of litigation, it is tending to go more <br />toward having a number to do repeatable measurements. <br />Commissioner Olson asked Mr. Rosen if he is familiar with how Barone's is monitoring <br />its sound levels. <br />Mr. Rosen said no <br />Ms. Ott stated that this may be more of a Planning question; however, she is aware that <br />Barone's is self- monitoring, and while it has to monitor the sound levels, it is not <br />required to record them. <br />Acting Chair Blank noted that this, again, is one of those vague things. He further noted <br />that, for example, without a metric, if, while looking at five minutes and the average <br />noise level for that five minute, somebody drops a bunch of dishes, someone holding a <br />sound meter will catch that sound, and it could be a violation. <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, November 14, 2012 Page 12 of 31 <br />
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