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measuring the different pads in that it would not penalize one for splitting a pad versus doing a flat -pad grading which could potentially result in more grading impacts in the house, looking less natural on the slope bank. He noted that he included in the staff report a comparison of what the prior project had as far as the height was concerned, which had more of a parallel measurement here, so it was 30 feet for the lower and 30 feet for the higher, and if a line were basically drawn in between there, all of the structure would have to be below that in a parallel line to the grade. Commissioner Olson requested further clarification, noting that if, on the left under "proposed," the view is off to the right, people down below would be looking from the right there, and they would be seeing a structure greater than 30 feet high. Mr. Otto replied that was correct, if the structure were measured from the bottom to the top. Commissioner Olson inquired if that does not then negate the requirement. He noted that it would be equivalent to having it both ways. Brian Dolan stated that it would depend on from where it is being viewed. He explained that the applicant is asking for a measurement this time around that is more generous than that of the previous application. Commissioner Narum inquired if this is one of the discussion questions. Mr. Otto said yes. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED. Connie Goldade, Community Design and Architecture, stated that she was a member of the design team for Oak Grove and indicated that since Mr. Otto did a good job at explaining the project, she would just highlight a few of the project items that were part of the discussion topics before the Commission tonight. First, with respect to the zoning for the property, Ms. Goldade stated that she believed it is important to keep the agricultural uses on the property in addition to the residential uses. She noted that they based the house sites and lot locations on a lot of the planning that has been done to date, as well as on the CEQA analysis in order to limit any negative impacts as much as possible. Regarding refining the house sizes, Ms. Goldade indicated that they think there really should be no limit on the house sizes, and the City's design review process and the design guidelines to be adopted as part of the project would guide the design control. She added that if there had to be a limit to the house sizes, 12,500 square feet would be the house size with an additional square footage allowed for garages for up to 10 cars and accessory structures, such as secondary residential structures, as allowed by State law that would be no more than 1,200 square feet. Regarding the height, Ms. Goldade stated that the idea is that it was not just for structures on hillsides but also for the flat pad units to try and limit the PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, March 28, 2012 Page 6 of 33