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Ms. Ayala stated that story poles are a must, as was seen with a Downtown plan lately. She added that with this plan and the proposed heights, it has been the same road designation three times in a row now. She cited that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. She indicated that this is a mile -long road on the top of our ridges. Ms. Ayala stated that two or three months ago, the members of the Referendum Committee were requested by Mr. Marty Inderbitzen to meet with him. She noted that they actually had a nice meeting, starting off with a request to please drop the lawsuits; the community would work a lot better with the Commission if the lawsuits are not hanging over their heads, but he said they would not do that; however, Mr. Inderbitzen agreed to meet with them and visit the project site to see the siting of these houses. She noted that Karla Brown was there, and at that time, she was also the President of the Kottinger Homeowners Association. She added that Mr. Inderbitzen had set up a meeting with the Homeowners Association, and three or four weeks past that, he canceled the meeting and said they were not going to the site and that there would be no more meetings. She pointed out that the developer, with all that community involvement the last time, is not taking the neighborhoods first; he has had no communication with Grey Eagle or Vintage Hills II residents. Ms. Ayala requested the Commission to consider putting the ordinances in place. Ms. Goldade stated that visual simulations will be done as part of the Supplemental Environmental Impact Report (EIR) process to address the visual concern. She indicated that she thinks this analysis should be done to see what really transpires with the heights before the Commission or the public makes a decision on the building height. She added that a lot of the home sites have been designed to limit the view impacts, lowering them off the ridges, down with the trees. She stated that in the case of Lot 10, there is a berm being developed or proposed to help shield that home site from views. She then noted that the project is exempt from Measure PP because the proposal is for ten homes, without any plans to come back with any more down the road, and that the project is consistent with Measure QQ. Commissioner O'Connor stated that the question was if the applicant would be willing at some appropriate stage to install story poles for a 12,500- square -foot house to prove to people that there is going to be a limit to the visual impacts of these homes. Ms. Goldade replied that she was not sure if she can say that herself. Commissioner O'Connor noted that he does not have a problem if the applicant wants to confer with the owner of the property first. Ms. Goldade indicated that there would be a greater value with the photo simulations that will be done because the story poles are so thin, and people would be viewing them from great distances. She added that she also thinks that a lot of the homes are conceptually designed and that she was not sure if people will be happy with the story poles at this point. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, March 28, 2012 Page 14 of 33