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Mr. Shafer stated that he owns the land that has the existing creek that actually bisects <br />the two properties and wants to make sure that the water is handled correctly. He noted <br />that with the development that went in behind them, he has the water level go up and <br />down, and he is not sure that is supposed to happen. He indicated that he believes the <br />speed of water getting off the Lunch Ranch II property and actually getting to the creek <br />is going to increase substantially, and obviously, that's when erosion occurs. He stated <br />that he was aware that the other developers have tried to do certain types of procedures <br />to actually slow the water down, and he has actually walked up the creek and nothing <br />has been done. He indicated that he would like to see what the developer is proposing <br />to help with the speeding water and the erosion that is potentially going to occur <br />because of the development. <br />Mr. Shafer stated that within the first week of their moving in, the developer of the <br />property came to his house and put out the plans for about 149 homes and the road up <br />around where it was supposed to go. He indicated that he talked to the City planner at <br />the time and was told that that is the way it was going to go. He noted that if the <br />developer did put the road up to Bridle Creek or Sycamore, it almost sounds like this <br />25- percent grade could be going on for miles. He further noted that it does not appear <br />like there was any explanation given as to how much that road would be violating <br />Measure PP, and he asked how much of that road would actually by impacted by <br />Measure PP, if it is over ten feet of the road or the entire road. He added that he thinks <br />at some point, that decision has to be made <br />Mr. Shafer stated that there is a standing agreement that was done before Measure PP <br />and inquired if Measure PP just supersedes any agreement that was ever made. He <br />further inquired why that agreement does not supersede Measure PP even though the <br />Measure was voted in. He indicated that he voted for Measure PP but assumed that it <br />would apply to houses and not necessarily roads because he never assumed that a <br />road would actually go up on a hill. <br />Chris Coleman stated that he has lived in the area since 1999, and the proposed <br />development is just behind his neighbors' homes. He indicated that his principal <br />concern is traffic and that he is not surprised to hear some pretty compelling comments <br />here tonight. He added that as a family, he, his wife, and his 16- year -old daughter who <br />just got her driving permit, collectively will be driving down the road and the S -curve at <br />least six to ten times a day. He noted that so many speakers have talked about how <br />that is already a problem, and with 50 more homes, it will be much, much more. <br />Mr. Coleman stated that a second issue is what Mr. Shafer referred to regarding how <br />they can avoid putting over these agreements and just set them aside. He noted that <br />Sycamore Creek Way is much more accommodating to traffic than Lund Ranch Road or <br />Independence Drive. He requested the Commission to please look very carefully at <br />these two issues and try to honor the former Commission members, the City Council, <br />and the residents who have been there from the beginning. <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, March 14, 2012 Page 20 of 35 <br />