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Beaudin: I'm going to make one last pitch just in terms of the rationale for the setback <br /> and I'm not opposed to the line of thinking and I think it's a great conversation. The <br /> concern I have is that folks feel like this is going to be right on the sidewalk and really <br /> there is that piece of public right-of-way that everyone thinks is theirs, but it really <br /> belongs to the public and it varies in dimension anywhere from nothing to 10-15 and in <br /> some cases 50 feet. <br /> Commissioner Balch: We talked about this over on Dublin Canyon. <br /> Beaudin: Yes, on Dublin Canyon it came up. The property line-nobody sees it and <br /> people feel like it's their property but it's really not and the same is true here. The Bernal <br /> public right-of-way is wider than the Augustine public right-of-way so where there's <br /> potentially a five-foot setback on Augustine because the property line is invisible, the <br /> structure's actually a fairly similar distance from the back of sidewalk and where there's <br /> a one-foot setback on Old Bernal, there's actually a very similar setback to what's on <br /> Augustine, so the home will appear as if where nobody can see a property line and <br /> nobody's looking at dimensions in a table. This structure will appear to be an equal <br /> distance from the back of the sidewalk, so I want that to be out there because it's easy <br /> to look at the table and say it's a one-foot setback, but from a design and final product <br /> perspective, what we try to do is get this building closer to the corner so it had a <br /> different character, and if that's not consistent with the Commission's expectations for <br /> this site, then we do need to adjust that. But that was the direction; it was putting the <br /> parking behind and getting more of a commercial presence for a commercial district or <br /> an office district for that particular piece of the structure. The residential development <br /> you'll find on the upper floor is pushed back away from the street in a way that is more <br /> typical to the setbacks that would be in other residential districts and I hear the point <br /> that our office zoning has a 20-foot front yard setback. I'm just not sure it would <br /> accomplish the design objectives we had for this particular project and that might be <br /> different from where the Commission wants to go with it, but that's the direction we gave <br /> to the applicant in this particular case. <br /> Commissioner Allen: Thank you for clarifying that. Could I ask one clarifying question? <br /> And I appreciate the City has their piece for where the setback comes in, but that <br /> applies to all of our setbacks. So when our leaders had defined setbacks in our <br /> documents, like 20 feet or 15 feet, that's on top of whatever the right-of-way is, correct? <br /> Beaudin: It's from the property line. <br /> Commissioner Allen: Just so we're being apples and apples. <br /> Commissioner Balch: Well, no because the property line and the right-of-way could be <br /> different, correct? <br /> Beaudin: The property line and the back of sidewalk are often different. <br /> Commissioner Allen: Okay, that's what's different. <br /> Commissioner Balch: Your property line could be right at the curb cut. <br /> EXCERPT: DRAFT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, July 13, 2016 Page 15 of 21 <br />
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