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Commissioner Nagler: The point I'm trying to get at is there is no porch like this in the neighborhood. The porches in the neighborhood are a much more traditional porch and so I'm just asking, do you think that the request is inappropriate as an architect or do you understand the reason for the porch? Townsend: I understand the request and I also understand that the language is very vague. It doesn't say in the guidelines anything about size, projection, engaged... It's just a porch and we have a porch. We proposed a porch. The house next door—I did that—that has a five-foot porch. Now we're talking 10 foot, eight foot, it's all these numbers that are very vague that are being circulated. By the way, we have over 600 square feet of covered porch on this house already where they are going to do their primary living. Chair Ritter: All right, thank you. Our last speaker is Gloria Maceiko? Gloria Maceiko – Neighbor: Thank you. First of all, I'm super happy to hear that the family members are moving into the neighborhood. We are right behind you on Creek Trail Drive. One of the main reasons we bought this house is because of the beautiful view we get from our house of the Pleasanton Ridge and I didn't see any pictures that project the house against the houses in the neighborhood to see what views would be blocked along the surrounding homes. So that is my request. Chair Ritter: Okay, thanks for your feedback. Any other comments? Okay, we'll close the public hearing and bring it back to the Commission and staff. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED. Commissioner Allen: I have a question for Gerry because he started to talk about what this design might look like and I'm wondering if we could just hear your perspective given this discussion about a porch and, I think you were ready to design a porch that would be compatible. Beaudin: I think Mr. Townsend touched on it. I'm talking about extending the gable much like Commissioner Nagler was discussing, with 3 columns on the front of the home. He has already established with the style of architecture the kind of porch that we're talking about is not out of character. I met with these folks three months or so ago and we talked about the streetscape and front yard character and we did discuss porches, and we didn't require a porch at the time. We talked about that as an architectural detail that's important for the neighborhood. So it's been out there. I haven't seen the plans a lot since then, but I do think that is an appropriate architectural feature for the streetscape in this area. Commissioner Allen: Thank you. Chair Ritter: Any more questions? This is just proposed for Lot 4. Have they presented anything on Lot 2 or Lot 1? Or, it is just future zoning? Weinstein: Future zoning. DRAFT EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, April 13, 2016 Page 6 of 10