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DRAFT Chair O'Connor commented that for argument's sake, the Commission could condition some bollards going in that would wreck that car before it hits the fence. Commissioner Balch agreed that those would have to be required for the playground if the Commission approves the playground. Chair O'Connor added, again only for argument's sake, that striped white lines with "Keep out of this area" could be put in, but he is not saying that this is the best place to put in a playground. Commissioner Allen noted that most of the safety issue could be resolved with a strong steel fence or some support structure. She stated that in relation to noise, she was surprised that no one from the neighborhood showed up, and based on staffs input to the Commission, it sounds like people will notice in the afternoon when kids are screaming. She indicated that she personally had a situation where some new people moved into a house in Napa down from her place, and they have children on a trampoline which was driving her crazy, as it was a whole different environment she was not used to. She stated that her tendency would be to work with this if it is workable; however, it sounds like there are these two challenging issues which may not be an issue on its own but together are not enough to make her get excited about putting a playground in a shopping center and thinking outside of the box. Chair O'Connor noted that while not all ten houses to the rear would be within earshot of the noise, there would be about five or six there, and probably another three or four more homes across from Junipero Street that could be affected. Commissioner Piper inquired, from a noise perspective, if staff is concerned that there will be an issue later on, as there clearly is none at this time. Mr. Luchini replied that it would be a fair assumption, considering that a fairly quiet atmosphere would be changed to an atmosphere with children on a daily basis. Commissioner Balch stated that his neighbor bought a motorcycle and he can hear him when he leaves and when he gets home, but that is only twice a day. He noted that hearing delivery trucks go by is completely different from a sustained playground. Chair O'Connor inquired if it would be an option in a commercial area to limit the hours the playground could be used. He noted that while everybody may be out of the house all day long, there could also be stay-at-home parents and young children. He indicated that delivery trucks come between 5:00 p.m. and 6:00 p.m., and the use of the playground could be limited to no later than 4:00 p.m. or thereabout. Commissioner Balch stated that the issue with that is that delivery trucks are in a use that allows them hours no matter what, maybe 24 hours, because they were there first. EXCERPT: DRAFT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, 11-12-2014 Page 8 of 10