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DRAFT Mr. Dolan replied that there has been an evolution from staff's position on this matter, and staff reconsidered whether or not they would want to put children right next to a truck going by, protected by a steel fence that would break or collapse if the truck ran off into it. Commissioner Balch stated that fairly recently, he has actually seen a playground fence like this snap from a vehicle going through it at the Quarry Lane School in the Valley Business Park. He noted that the car plowed through the fence and fortunately, the playground was empty as it was after hours. Chair O'Connor inquired, without actually seeing the length of the buildout of the play area, if the play area fence is contiguous all the way to an entrance or exit from the school facility or if someone will actually walk the children out to that area. Mr. Luchini replied that there is no direct connection between the playground and the school, so the students would be physically walked from Suites 3 and 4 through the breezeway to the enclosed playground. Chair O'Connor stated that as far as the fence collapsing, other protections could be added such as bollards or cement-filled pipes spaced so far apart that a truck would have to plow through. He indicated, however, that he did not know how easily those come out. Mr. Luchini stated that staff has made recommendations in the staff report, but the additional considerations are certainly at the purview of the Commission. Commissioner Ritter inquired if the neighbors along the east side ever complain about noise from trucks going up and down that alley. Mr. Luchini replied no, not to his knowledge. Commissioner Ritter noted that it is interesting that no one from the neighborhood showed up tonight. Chair O'Connor commented that he assumes 18-wheeler diesel trucks make more noise than children, although it is not as constant and not there before hours. Commissioner Balch stated that he finds it very interesting and astounding that no one is present from the neighborhood. He indicated that he would totally understand if staff gets a lot of complaints on the back side if the Commission approved a school playground at that location. He continued that his initial difficulty with where the playground is proposed to be located is the fact that vehicles will be making a right turn into the rear of the shopping center coming down from Junipero Street and would be leaning right towards the fence as they go into the rear of the lot, so it is a bit difficult, without a doubt. He added that there is also a pass-through access in that general area. EXCERPT: DRAFT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, 11-12-2014 Page 7 of 10