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station becomes active, even if the station at the LLNL has not been built, or does the <br />whole project get turned on at the same time. <br /> <br />Mr. McPartland replied that there are several caveats which would end up impacting on <br />that. He stated that based on what he has seen and perceives, if the lights were turned <br />on and the gates were opened in the downtown station before they open a station at <br />LLNL, unless there is no parking there at all, the draw this would end up having for the <br />freeway for those coming from San Joaquin Valley would be such that it would basically <br />destroy the downtown Livermore area as it is today. <br /> <br />Commissioner Blank commented that if BART is optimistic that shovels will be in the <br />ground substantially sooner than ten years for a phased project, this is a reasonable <br />planning horizon. <br /> <br />Mr. McPartland pointed out that Option 3, which he also endorses along with <br />Mr. Paxson and Mr. Reynolds, gives BART the maximum amount of flexibility. He <br />stated that as a Director, a politician, and someone who considers himself a pragmatist, <br />mixed-use does two things, with the business and residential properties that potentially <br />could go in there: (1) it collectively gives the City and BART the maximum degree of <br />flexibility and also maturity as this starts going in phase after phase and as time goes on <br />and changes occur in the demographics; and (2) BART would be very resistant to and <br />would not be interested in a major way in the idea of having all commercial or all <br />residential on either side, for example, BART would have all commercial, and the City <br />would have the reciprocal all residential. He indicated that this is a partnership, and <br />BART would like to have both types of development on both sides of Owens Drive. <br /> <br />The Commission then discussed the questions. <br /> <br />1. Are the proposed land use alternatives appropriate for this site? <br /> <br />The Commissioners unanimously said yes and added that they were amenable to <br />leaving it flexible for mixed-use zoning. <br /> <br />Mr. Fleissig acknowledged that the strategy they took is to retain the same list of uses <br />that the Planning Commission and the City Council have already vetted and that they <br />chose not to change that because they have already been worked through. <br /> <br />Chair Narum confirmed that Mr. Fleissig was referring to the permitted, conditionally <br />permitted, and not allowed uses. She indicated that she is good with the list. <br /> <br />Commissioners Blank and Pearce likewise indicated that they were fine with the list. <br /> <br />Mr. Dolan clarified that he was referring to the more general office, hotel, and <br />residential. <br /> <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, May 25, 2011 Page 16 of 21 <br /> <br />