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Commissioner Blank stated that assuming CalTrans comes in five years from now and <br /> wants to widen the freeway and removes the landscaping, Safeway will be visible. <br /> Mr. Rodrigues explained that there is also groundcover, shrubbery, and tree growth, in <br /> addition to an entire layer of trees which his rendering shows from the back of the <br /> Safeway and does not include any of the CalTrans cover. <br /> Commissioner Blank stated that the Commission wants to have it massed assuming <br /> there is no CalTrans cover because CalTrans could remove that. <br /> Mr. Rodrigues stated that there will be shrubbery growing high as shown in the <br /> landscape plan. <br /> Commissioner Blank stated that he think it needs more filling in. <br /> Mr. Rodrigues reiterated that the rendering does not include the CalTrans overlay. He <br /> stated that CalTrans could eliminate all of the landscaping within five to ten years, and <br /> there would be trees or shrubbery that Safeway would have maintained it so it does not <br /> go into the right -of -way. <br /> Commissioner Blank concluded by stating that the landscaping is excellent when <br /> making the turn, but felt there was more work to do when coming down the ramp. <br /> Commissioner Blank inquired if, with a large parking lot area, there would be video <br /> camera surveillance or on -site guards during hours when the center is not in operation <br /> for Phase I or II. <br /> Mr. Trobbe replied that if they have a Phase II with office, he thinks this would be a <br /> tenant decision and not something a developer would enforce. With respect to Phase 1, <br /> given the Safeway Store will be a 24 -hour store, he stated that he does not think there <br /> will be security for this. <br /> Commissioner Narum requested someone to discuss traffic with the drive - through bank <br /> and the drive - through fast food and how it would work. She stated that cars would <br /> come out from the bank and cars would come into the drive - through. She inquired how <br /> the circulation would work during lunch time. <br /> Mr. Rodrigues replied that they would fine -tune this depending upon who the users are. <br /> He noted that certain drive - through's like banks typically do not have a lot of traffic, <br /> while a fast food restaurant might. He indicated that they would look at creating a small <br /> "pork chop" island landscape feature that would separate the two so there would not be <br /> any conflict. <br /> Chair Olson stated that he is in the banking business and that it is likely that a bank <br /> going into the site would not want a drive - through. He added that they would service via <br /> EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 25, 2010 Page 10 of 14 <br />