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permission to host late evening music and dancing. He suggested that once business owners start measuring and recording these sound values, it will become apparent that the current standard of 60 decibels is excessively low. Referring to condition of approval No. 8, Councilmember Sullivan asked if that would be a situation where the Police Department would respond to a complaint with a noise meter. Mr. Dolan confirmed and said that violation would not be identified otherwise. Councilmember Sullivan said he supports the idea but it raises additional issues with proper calibration and use of the meters. He asked if issues with debris would be policed or if those too would require a complaint before being noticed. Mr. Dolan said the condition, as drafted, would serve as a requirement that staff could point to in the event complaints were received. He believed the applicant would do their best to comply with any requirement. Mayor Hosterman opened the public hearing. Christine Salidivar, Pleasanton Downtown Association (PDA), requested that the Council abstain from arbitrarily defining rules and instead allow the PDA to work with the Council in identifying goals that meet everyone's needs. She said the Responsible Hospitality Institute will be coming to work with the entire community on developing a set of standards. She cautioned against setting an unattainable precedent for measuring outdoor sound and concurred with Vice -Mayor Thorne that current standards may not be reasonable. She found the condition requiring Redcoats to ensure cleanliness of the surrounding area to be reasonable but noted that other restaurants exist within the immediate area. She asked that such requirements be fair and equal to all business participants in the downtown area. Mayor Hosterman asked when the Council could expect recommendations from the Responsible Hospitality Institute, and Ms. Salidivar responded it would be March. Gene Finch said he met with staff and several Council members over the past few weeks and is pleased with what has taken place thus far. He assured the public he is not looking to restrict the activities of Redcoats, said he approves of the CUP, and supports all businesses within Pleasanton. He asked that his concerns regarding the good neighbor policy be respected and addressed. He believed the issues surrounding patron smoking would be rectified by the placement of permanent signage and requested that staff ensure compliance of all conditions of approval subsequent to this hearing. He said each downtown business is unique in its location and merits and cautioned the Council against developing too specific a set of standards. He noted that as a resident, he has a right to privacy and quiet enjoyment of his home and said he would most assuredly oppose any move on the applicant's part to provide outdoor music. Thomas Kennard said he has worked the weekend bar at Redcoats consistently for the last 2 years. He said that since Mr. Finch's concerns have come to light, he has taken extra care to ensure that he and his crew carefully clean the surrounding the area. He noted that on one event he did leave something outside and said it was a bottle of Celebration Ale, a brand not carried by Redcoats. He said Mr. Finch has built a lovely home which he has no wish to disrespect and that he puts forth a concerted effort to keep the site orderly and to close up in a timely fashion. He said Redcoats owners and staff make every attempt to be good neighbors and, while some things may slip through the cracks, they are committed to doing their very best. Peter MacDonald said Redcoats is a major downtown asset whose value will increase with the approval of this CUP. He suggested that a disclosure covenant like that required for Kimberly Commons could offer great protection for downtown businesses and should have been requested with the Finch's apartment. He said that downtowns require music and noise in order City Council Minutes Page 5 of 9 February 2, 2010