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Commissioner Pentin stated that he believed this was a question for the architect and <br />Safeway as to what they normally use if they are showing outside sales and restaurant <br />seating. He Indicated that he was not certain an additional six to ten feet was <br />necessary to provide additional pedestrian/plaza areas; he was more concerned with <br />losing the parking. <br />Commissioner Blank agreed with Commissioner Pentin. He indicated that this is a <br />marketing/design issue and that he would be concerned if parking were to disappear in <br />order to accomplish that. <br />Commissioner Olson agreed. He added that he also sees the proposal to reduce the <br />width of the driveway down to 25 feet and inquired what this would do to the vehicle <br />traffic that must go through that area. He further inquired if 25 feet would be appropriate <br />for an 18-wheeler. <br />Commissioner O’Connor commented that 18-wheelers would hopefully not drive in front <br />of the store. <br />Commissioner Narum inquired whether gas trucks would access this area. <br />Commissioners Blank and Olson stated that trucks were not using this to enter and exit <br />the area. <br />Commissioner O’Connor stated that the applicant indicated that they would like to <br />increase the sidewalk by five feet and reduce the driveway in front of the store by five <br />feet so it does not affect parking. He added that the real question is whether 25 feet is <br />enough for traffic to travel back and forth in front of the store. <br />Mr. Pavan indicated that 25-foot drive isles can accommodate large trucks, most <br />pedestrian traffic, and even a bus. <br />Mr. Dolan agreed and noted the street standard is a 12-foot travel lane. <br />Commissioner Narum suggested making it more interesting by bumping the ends out <br />five feet and then curving it back in to make the seating farther from traffic. <br />Commissioner Pentin noted that there are outside grocery fruit stands and produce and <br />that they may be using the entire sidewalk. <br />Commissioner O’Connor stated that he wanted to see the sidewalk widened but not <br />stuck on the ends as he was more concerned with how Safeway normally operates. He <br />noted that there are plants outside for some of the centers, and they will have <br />promotional stackings in the front. He stated that he believed the last thing they would <br />want is to have the sidewalk so narrow so that carts cannot circulate well. <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, October 14, 2009 Page 20 of 25 <br /> <br />