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provider. He suggested that those objective standards be listed and have Planning staff verify that applicants comply with them. He noted that if staff works with objective standards, they will discover real issues, such as what level of screening parent volunteers should go through, how to deal with a criminal charge that never resulted in a conviction, and how the applicant information is kept updated. He indicated that he felt working together will result in the development of efficient and objective standards which will reduce rather than increase the barriers to after-school care. Commissioner Narum asked Mr. MacDonald whether he was supportive of a planning policy or an ordinance. Mr. MacDonald replied that he felt creating a category like after-school care and thinking through the rules would have to be done as an ordinance which should be made easily accessible to the public. He noted that one of the problems that currently exists is that City policy is difficult to find and open to interpretation and extrapolation. Commissioner Olson inquired if the text of Mr. MacDonald’s presentation could be used to create an ordinance. Commissioner Narum stated that he felt the details would need to be filled in. He added that there ought to be a disaster plan on an 8.5 inches by 11 inches sheet with a diagram showing where the exits are, etc. Commissioner Blank stated that he agrees that specificity needs to be in place so that the applicant has a list of the things he/she needs to do, whether it be in the form of a policy or an ordinance. He added that he felt this was the preference of the Commission the last time it was discussed. James Paxson stated that he thinks child care is a complicated issue and that all issues have been vetted well. He indicated that he is less interested in commenting on what policy is adopted than on its effects and what is being done to go forward. He reiterated Mr. Dolan’s comment that should the Commission adopt certain provision on some of the alternatives, Little Ivy League School would not be able to be located in Hacienda right now. He noted that there are other uses that he thinks would have the same fate and he felt this would be a shame as there are very good locations for these types of facilities that are successful. Mr. Paxson noted that the issue of requiring outdoor play and co-mingling with businesses is more difficult to figure out. He stated that one of the solutions, depending upon which policies are advanced, would be to do a PUD modification for the Park to look at how underlying zoning interfaces with whatever child care policy or ordinance is adopted. He indicated that because of the complexity of Hacienda’s PUD and its variety of zonings, he would be more than willing to work on this to figure out how to apply the adopted policy to the Park. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, September 23, 2009 Page 24 of 34