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Chair Pearce noted that the problem would still exist because the children are competing and going for more than ten hours.She indicated that she was not sure she wants them subjected to regulations. Commissioner Pentin agreed and stated that the First Tee program at the Pleasanton Golf Course is a good example. He noted that as children are supervised there, they can be out there 20 hours a week practicing into the evenings, in which case they would fall under this. Commissioner Narum noted that most of those groups require and conduct background checks of some sort. She added that it would appear almost all athletic groups will have a significant number of children affected, thereby forcing those organizations to come under Alternative 1 or 2. Ms. Stern stated that the Commission could write a specific exemption for those types of groups, such as those types of co-sponsorship groups that participate in background checks. Commissioner Pentin indicated that he was involved with one of the largest junior golf organizations in the State that implements a child protection plan that requires background checks. He noted that if they ran a program in Pleasanton, they would have their own background checks in place. He inquired if these organizations would be exempt. Commissioner Narum referred to the list on page 1 of Attachment 1, second bullet point from the bottom. Mr. Roush stated that he thought the qualification for child care is where families rely on the facility for actual child care for their children. He added that he did not consider a sports situation as child care. Ms. Stern noted that the previous paragraph discusses operating year-round in a permanent facility, which is why the aquatics group came up, but that perhaps some of the other groups would not come under that. Commissioner Narum stated that she felt the leagues would be competitive and year- round, but most likely not all in a permanent facility. She noted that gymnastics is year-round and that when the ice rink is built, there will be figure skaters and hockey players practicing more than 20 hours a week. Commissioner Olson noted that the objective in those is sports training and not child care. Commissioner Blank stated that he does not know anyone who participates in competitive activities that rely on it for child care. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, September 23, 2009 Page 22 of 34