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Commissioner Pentin stated that State licensing versus City requirements is an issue and that the City would be defeating its purpose with this Catch 22. He added, however, that he believes that criminal backgrounds, health screenings, and sign-in/sign-out procedures are appropriate for any organization with children in their care. He indicated that he was in favor of the disclosure clause of checking whether facilities like sports camps are or are not licensed should the City get to a point where it does not require facilities be licensed. Commissioner Blank agreed with Commissioner Pentin and Chair Pearce. He stated that he did not believe the liability issue was something to worry about, given the list, the sign-in/sign–out, and refinement for athletic or training schools. He did express concern, however, about the State’s reliance issue. He stated that they have demonstrated what appeared to be a lack of responsiveness and has also demonstrated what appeared to a significant amount of contradictory information. He noted that when written confirmation was requested, the City was told to read the previous letter, which was not helpful. He indicated that he believes there should be at least a minimum set of standards in place and that requirements exceeding what the State requires is part of the safety mandate of the Planning Commission to ensure public safety. Commissioner Olson expressed concern that the City not increase its liability with the policy and be able to provide additional resources to parents. He added that beyond that, any additional City policy should clearly state that it is the parent’s responsibility to check out the facility. He believes that the items on page 4 are reasonable, with the inclusion of the sign-in/sign-out procedure. Commissioner Narum suggested that the Commission also exempt organizations that are co-sponsored with the City because there is an entire ordinance on what they must follow. She noted that this would take care of the athletics, soccer club, baseball, aquatics, tennis, and golf programs. Commissioner Blank questioned whether or not to include aquatics. Commissioner Narum said she did because an argument can be made that it is the one sport that has a permanent facility--the pool. She noted that once children reach a certain age, they are there more than 10 hours a week. She questioned where the line should be drawn and referred to martial arts schools. She pointed out that some are used as a guise for child care, and it would seem that those groups that are co-sponsored by the City meet a list of criteria, including insurance and residency, and they must be non-profit and governed by a Board of Directors. She added that Narum said they are also required to have a representative at sports council meetings. Commissioner Narum noted that when she left the Parks and Recreation Commission, background checks on the coaches was going to be required. She stated that she knows swim coaches must have background checks through organizations in order to PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, July 8, 2009 Page 8 of 15