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Commissioner O'Connor inquired, if the Commission will have the State certify under <br /> Option A, if the City would want to be involved in any child related services that would <br /> be for 20 students or less, under 10 or 15 hours; or, would the City have them <br /> self certify if they do not meet child care definitions. <br /> Ms. Stern replied that it would be up to the Commission to refine that policy; however, in <br /> general, if they do not meet the City's criteria for child care, they would default to <br /> whatever regulation is relevant to that use currently in the Code. <br /> With reference to liability, Chair Pearce stated that the City would obviously have a third <br /> party do the background checks, which would limit the City's liability. She added that <br /> she assumes the State would have standards for doing background checks such as it <br /> would matter if someone had a DUI in the last five years but not if it was ten years ago. <br /> She requested staff to look at what the State does with regard to this should the <br /> Commission opt for Option B. <br /> Ms. Stern stated that she believes the State would have some standard to determine <br /> which crimes would matter and their corresponding time limits. <br /> Chair Pearce portrayed a situation where a child needed CPR, and the City relied on an <br /> organization that conducts first aid training, which would limit the City's exposure in the <br /> end. <br /> Commissioner Blank stated that if they were trained by an appropriate agency like the <br /> Red Cross, were certified and card carrying, they would be exempt under the Good <br /> Samaritan Rule and would not be exposed to any liability. <br /> Chair Pearce stated that she thought this only applied to general citizens and not to City <br /> employees. She indicated that she would like to see what applies for the State <br /> regulations, such as TB screening. <br /> Chair Pearce inquired if the City was saying that the exemption issue does not arise <br /> unless someone asks to be exempt. <br /> Ms. Stern replied that the State will license businesses that characterize themselves as <br /> child care, and if businesses believe they are a private recreation, the State will typically <br /> provide exemptions. <br /> Chair Pearce inquired if the City will still require the State to license a business that the <br /> State deemed exempt, which in the past, they have been extremely reluctant to do. <br /> Ms. Stern replied that staff's argument is that they should not be exempt because they <br /> do not meet exemption categories. She added that staff believes there are categories <br /> that some businesses would fall into. <br /> EXCERPTS: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, July 8, 2009 Page 8 of 12 <br />