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Chair Pearce stated that she was aware there were concerns raised about increased <br /> City liability and asked Ms. Harryman if she sees this as a concern. <br /> Ms. Harryman replied that if a child is injured in a program and thinks that the City was <br /> responsible in certifying the operation, the injured would look to blame parties and the <br /> City will undoubtedly be named. She agreed there is exposure but believed the City <br /> also has governmental immunities and would prevail. <br /> Chair Pearce stated that she did not believe this was much different from the exempt <br /> child care that the City now authorizes. <br /> Ms. Harryman agreed. <br /> Chair Pearce inquired if a child care facility would be considered in situations where <br /> some children are there over 10 hours during the school year and 15 hours in the <br /> summer. She provided an example of a gymnastics facility where the majority of <br /> children attend for an hour or so, but a minority of children who are on a competitive <br /> team are there for 10 -12 hours a week. She inquired if this would then be categorized <br /> as a child care facility. <br /> Ms. Stern said yes. She added that she was not sure there was a way around not <br /> categorizing it as a child care facility. <br /> THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED. <br /> Jack Balch stated that as a result of his having gone through a long process as a <br /> landlord, he is very familiar with the State licensing process. He indicated that he was <br /> glad the Commission was considering this matter but expressed concern that the City is <br /> opening itself to liability beyond what the State is requiring. He referred to the Catch 22 <br /> situation, recalling that his applicant came to the City and was told he needed to apply <br /> for a license, was told by the State that he was exempt, obtained letters from the State <br /> to that effect, and when he was again told that he had to obtain the license, the State <br /> moved at a much slower pace than it would have in the normal approval process. <br /> With respect to the sign -in /sign -out provision, Mr. Balch suggested ensuring that an <br /> adult sign the children in and out. He referred to the "E" building occupancy which <br /> generally worked well, but also involves additional aspects of operations. He voiced <br /> concern that the City use the same definitions as the State because he could see <br /> tutoring used in a variety of ways. He also expressed concern about exempting <br /> everything on the School District's property. <br /> Brad Hirst stated that he hoped the Commission does not create more problems than it <br /> would create solutions regarding the matter. He echoed some points raised regarding <br /> hours and gymnastics as well as training and athletic camps, stating that his grandson <br /> EXCERPTS: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, July 8, 2009 Page 4 of 12 <br />