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DRAFT Commissioner Narum stated that she agrees with most of what Commissioner Olson has said. She noted that she was astonished when her husband carried the packet in from the front door. She stated that considering the time and effort staff put into this project and its recommendation of approval, she believes the Commission should leave the E-occupancy and Condition No. 17 to the Building and Safety Division staff. She indicated that she would like to find some common ground on a temporary basis to try to give the business a chance. She stated that she feels the project has gone on long enough and believed it was embarrassing. She noted that given what has transpired, she is amenable to something half-way on a temporary basis, but believes that as was mentioned in the earlier hearing, the facility will ultimately need a daycare license. Chair Blank noted that this item started on June 27, 2007, and almost a year and a half later, it is still unresolved. He stated that he believes the childcare license that the Commission discussed at a previous hearing and which the City Council reinforced is a must. He added that the only way he would consider a temporary arrangement is with a condition that if, at end of a six-month period, a childcare license is not forthcoming, both long-term and short-term plans are off. He stated that he felt clearly this has taken longer than anyone anticipated, that it poses a lot of challenges, and that a lot of people are troubled with how to rectify it and do it in a way that is safe and effective. He noted that the other part of the challenge is that childcare licensing is not the purview of the City but of the State, and if the State decides to waive every requirement to issue a license, the only thing to do is to change State law. With respect to some of the conditions, Chair Blank stated that he was fine with allowing the orange-colored mock guns. He added that while this was not discussed, he felt Mr. Balch brought up the point that staff is requiring notification of the lacquering, and if the lacquering operators move out and a leather tanning company moves in, it would it apply to them as well. Ms. Decker stated that staff has a generic condition that states that anyone participating in the program would acknowledge that there are other industrial uses in the surrounding area. Chair Blank indicated that this would be better verbiage. Chair Blank referred to the outdoor storage and stated that he assumed this did not include the trash enclosure. He indicated that the Commission has discussed the sign program. He added that he would like to see a condition that states that overnight stays for any period of time shall not be permitted, that there shall be no overnight camps permitted, and that no child or adult of any age, including the applicant, may be allowed to stay in the facility overnight for any reason. Chair Blank proposed another condition that no activities may be conducted beyond the hours as noted in Condition No. 4; the facility may remain open between the transitioning to classes between the hours of 6:15 p.m. and 6:45 p.m.; there shall be a period of one-half hour allowed before and after the hours of operation as stated for patrons to leave the facility, clean up and set up. DRAFT EXCERPTS: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, 11/12/2008 Page 17 of 25