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Commissioner Fox indicated that she had a question for the City Attorney and noted that <br />with respect to the exemption from licensure within the Evaluator Manual, the manual <br />read, "Once at the facility, children are not assigned specific activities or placed in a <br />structured program" and "Children participating in the drop-in recreational program are <br />not there to receive structured care and supervision." She added that it further said <br />"children may arrive or depart from the facility on their own." She noted that the staff <br />report discussed the schedule and that after the children's arrival, there was 30 minutes <br />for lunch, martial arts from 1:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m., followed by a half-hour break. <br />Following the break, there was leadership, agility, and balance training from 2:30 p.m. to <br />3:30 p.m., then martial arts games and activities from 5:00 p.m. to 5:30 p.m.; and quiet <br />activities from 5:30 p.m. to 6:15 p.m. until pickup. She noted that the applicant's website <br />talked about "structured games and activities." Based upon the Licensing Manual and the <br />applicant's description of his business, Commissioner Fox inquired whether or not the <br />children were in a structured program. Mr. Roush replied that as indicated in the staff <br />report, staff had not agreed with the State's determination that the Academy would fall <br />within the exemption. Staff indicated the rules for the protection of children as well as <br />the schedule and activities set forth for the children would remove the use from the <br />exemption. <br />Commissioner Fox noted that the testimony indicated that the waiver allowed children to <br />come and go as they pleased, although it was not the parents' or applicant's experience <br />that in reality, it would happen. She inquired whether that would invalidate the waiver. <br />Mr. Roush did not know whether it would invalidate the waiver per se, but staff believed <br />that the waiver notwithstanding, the children were not really free to come and go and that <br />they were kept there until the parents arrived. It was staff s opinion that it is not, that the <br />waiver is invalid, and that it did not reflect reality. <br />Commissioner Fox noted that there is a 14-passenger van and aseven-passenger van. In <br />response to an inquiry by Commissioner Fox regarding whether there would be <br />potentially 21 cars at the facility in the morning during the summer months, Ms. Amos <br />replied that in that case, the same parking requirements would apply as for the adult <br />classes, which was one space for every two students in attendance. The applicant stated <br />that the parents generally staggered their arrivals. <br />Commissioner Pearce noted that the applicant had called similar facilities such as dance <br />and gymnastic facilities for special activities to inquire about their care and supervision <br />policies and inquired whether the number of hours per week the children attended the <br />facility had been determined. She wished to understand the difference in hours and the <br />restrictions between a gymnastic studio when a student is dropped off for an hour and this <br />use, when an exemption for care and supervision would be required, and when it would <br />not be required. <br />Ms. Decker replied that one of the distinctions was the length of time per activity and for <br />many of these types of facilities, the children attend for an hour or an hour-and-a-half. In <br />past prof ects, it is a bona fide daycare if children are present for over 1'/z hours per day or <br />over 16 hours per week. Staff had taken great care to make that distinction and required <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, February 13, 2008 Page 32 of 42 <br />