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Mr. Thomas stated that there are additional options in the new Code. He indicated that one of these alternatives is anon-separated use, in which the entire building rather than just the project site is evaluated for an E occupancy and providing the most restrictive requirements of that particular occupancy throughout the building; this would not require upgrading the fire rating wall to two hours. Mr. Thomas added that there are exiting requirements and that he has reviewed these with Mr. Pfund and the building owner. With respect to how long it would take the Building and Safety Division to approve the building for E-occupancy, Mr. Thomas stated that Mr. Pfund would have to submit drawings prepared by a California licensed architect or engineer. The City has the ability to expedite a review within athree-to-four-week period, if requested by an applicant, for an additional fee. Commissioner Fox inquired if the Units A, B, C, and D would need to be upgraded or just UnitA. Mr. Thomas replied that the methodology is that if the wall is not going to be changed to a two-hourwall by adding another 5l8-inch sheetrock on both sides, then the entire building would need to be evaluated for occupancy. He noted that the real ramifications would only be to provide a manual and an automatic pulsations throughout the entire building, which requires running wiring. Commissioner Fox inquired whetherthe guns referred to in the Dublin memo were loaded or unloaded and if they were the mock guns used in training. Mr. Pfund replied the guns were unloaded, locked, and totally out of view. He stated that he had to bring the guns in because he had a Saturday morning class and no children were present. He noted that when he was asked by the police officers if he had any firearms on-site, he complied and pointed out to the police officers where the guns were located because they were out of reach. Commissioner Fox noted that the California State Licensing has a requirement that firearms and otherweaponsshall not be allowed or stored on the premises of a childcare center. She inquired if mock weapons and mock knives were considered firearms or other weapons. Ms. Seto replied that she did not know if there was a specific regulation for that but that she could check with the State. Commissioner Fox inquired if the State had been asked about whether or not mock weapons are allowed. Ms. Seto replied that this question has not been posed. Mr. Pfund stated that he posed that question of the State, and the State Licensing representative indicated that when he obtains his childcare license, the facility would be a childcare center during the day, which would be different and separated from the evening adult classes. He indicated that he informed the State about the mock weapons he is using, which were made of rubber, have no machinery, and cannot fire, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, November 12, 2008 Page 12 of 29