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into the streetscape, wide sidewalks, transit, lighting, signage, linkages from transit station and <br />presented existing examples of TOD development in various cities. <br />Commissioner Fox confirmed with staff that out of discussions from workshops and outreach <br />efforts done prior to 2004 and given flexibility for adding specific types of development, this <br />influenced the mixed use land designation idea. City Manager Fialho also noted that after 2005, <br />the Commission and Council spent time refining each of the elements. There continues to be a <br />debate, however, as to what kinds of density should be present in the park and the City has <br />studied this through the environmental review process. <br />Commissioner Fox referred to mixed use versus transit-oriented development which requires <br />development to be one-half mile from the BART station, and confirmed mixed use could be <br />located almost in any kind of commercial area and not necessarily by a transit stop. <br />Councilmember Cook-Kallio said the reference has been that transit is BART and confirmed <br />with Mr. Iserson that transit also included busing, bicycles, walking, and in some cases <br />streetcars or other transit modes and that all of these function well. <br />Councilmember Sullivan asked the differences between the walkability and the environment of a <br />mixed use development on the same site versus in the same area, noting some have felt the <br />park is already a mixed use development, but it may be difficult to walk from an office use to a <br />retail center when it is 3 miles away. Mr. Iserson said one traditional type of mix use is ground <br />floor retail with residential above, as the idea is for convenience. <br />Mr. Iserson continued in his presentation of examples of mixed use development, said park <br />planning objectives, design guidelines and submitted plans could be reviewed through <br />workshops and involve Hacienda representatives, staff, the Commissions and the public. <br />Community Development Director Brian Dolan further compared the specific plan and PUD <br />processes, stating the specific plan is an additional layer of process, stating it involves one to <br />two years of community input.. The PUD process would encompass a parallel process; discuss <br />park-wide issues at the same time as considering PUD application; and would take about one <br />year to complete. Because residential projects are already designed, theoretically they could be <br />modified during the process. <br />Commissioner Fox questioned whether an additional elementary school would be needed. Mr. <br />Dolan said staff has not anticipated the need for another school, and Mr. Iserson agreed this <br />would need to be discussed in the forthcoming process. He said James Paxson has had initial <br />discussions with the school district; however, if the need is cited, financing of a school would <br />need to be addressed. <br />City Manager Fialho noted staff was not making any value judgment on whether or not a school <br />is necessary, discussions would need to take place and resolved through the expanded PUD <br />modification process or specific plan process. <br />Commissioner Fox referred to the use of "stakeholders" and questioned if existing property <br />owners had been part of the process to date. Mr. Iserson said there has been some informal <br />discussion but staff will ensure that residents from the community are included in the process. <br />Commissioner Fox questioned in a specific plan process whether a subcommittee would be <br />formed that includes all of the property owners, as compared to a PUD process which is driven <br />CC/PC Joint Workshop Minutes 2 August 27, 2008 <br />