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turnaround was moved to save a large tree and the pool moved six feet to save two large trees. The visuals were revised to provide a better view of the screening from below and from the Ruby Hill subdivision. Mr. McGinnis then displayed the site plans and landscaping plans and described them in detail; he pointed out the large trees that would be saved. He noted that the poolhouse had been removed, to be replaced by a cabana that would be tucked into the hill with an underground pool bath area. The pad had been raised by five feet, and the two-story design of the house had reduced the footprint of the house by several thousand square feet from 10,400 square feet to 8,890 square feet. The house would be stepped going in different directions. The driveway was realigned to save some trees, and the proposed winery/barn had been removed. The project currently has 160 Green points, and high-efficiency energy star appliances with high-efficiency fixtures as well as on-demand hot water tankless systems would reduce water usage by this house. With respect to the comment that a 2,700-square-foot home was not an estate home, Chairperson Fox inquired what the specifications of an estate home might be and how the Specific Plan defined and specified an estate home. Mr. Otto replied that there is no definition in the Specific Plan of an estate home or of house size in terms of square footage. He stated that he did not recall any language that specifically called out an estate home. In response to Chairperson's inquiry of what a standard building definition of an estate home would be, Mr. Otto replied that he was not aware of any. Ms. Decker confirmed that neither the Specific Plan nor the City had a codified definition of an estate home. She added that from a marketing standpoint, many 3,000-square-foot homes were called estate homes or estate developments. She pointed out that the general understanding of an estate home as it is used here is a premier, large home. In response to Chairperson Fox's inquiry if the 13,000-square-foot home on the Hayward Ridge is an estate home, Ms. Decker replied that staff did not research that home as part of this project and that she was not familiar with the history of that home. Commissioner Pearce requested clarification regarding the removal of 67 trees, which seemed to be more than previous plans. She noted that the staff report in 2005 stated that 56 trees would be removed, and the 2006 staff report had 38 trees. She inquired how many trees would be saved. Mr. McGinnis replied that many of the trees slated for removal were in poor condition. He noted that John Leffingwell, the arborist, was in attendance, as was Jeff Holmwood, the civil engineer from Ruggeri-Jensen-Azar. Mr. Otto noted that the number of trees being removed increased from the prior application due to the number of changes in the counting of the trees; there were additional trees that had not been counted previously to install the lower portion of the road. The arborist also recommended the removal of several more trees that were in poor condition. He noted that staff had recommended a condition to have an arborist re-examine several trees determined to be of poor condition to determine if they can be saved. He added that he did not at this point have the exact number of trees that would be removed or saved. EXCERPTS: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, November 14, 2007 Page 6 of 19