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Mayor Hosterman questioned if the rooftop parking was for additional space for new cars and Mr. Tai said they envision it to be for employee parking, which is several hundred spaces. He said the ramp is not necessarily secure but if there are no cars there after hours, there should be no reason not to turn the lighting off altogether in that area. Councilmember McGovern said one of the most important parts of the plan is how it fits in with the park, and the landscaping is very important to her. She asked if the landscaping was flat or bermed next to the 5 acre park. Mr. Tai said they are proposing a wall to separate the park from the automotive dealership. Landscaping against the wall could hide the wall or break it up, and they feel this works best for security and separation of uses. Councilmember McGovern said she could understand the use of a wall, but she would like it to be very nice, inviting, colorful and soft as it goes into the park. She said she was having trouble with the 50 foot sign and night lighting of the project, stating when you drive down the freeway and see some of the dealerships at night close to Office Depot, they are very bright. She asked if there is a certain wattage that would keep the property safe but with lower lighting. Councilmember McGovern preferred more landscaping be proposed around the buildings and voiced concerns over the visual amount of parking and building space. Councilmember Cook-Kallio questioned if the signs were represented during the flyover video and Mr. Tai said he believed the pylon signs were shown. He said the project is very large and if a 5 foot sign is placed on the site, it would not be seen and therefore, something of presence must be implemented. He then presented the video and verified the sign was in the video. Councilmember Cook-Kallio said the staff report indicates 2 car washes and Mr. Tai noted they were contemplating up to 4 car washes, those buildings will be landscaped and they were mindful of noise impacts. Mayor Hosterman said she was having trouble with the signage and asked Mr. Tai to contemplate opportunities to reduce it. She thought the nighttime picture was much nicer than the daytime picture and she confirmed this was an actual depiction of the signage. Mayor Hosterman said projects in Pleasanton need to be elegant and timeless architecture and asked Mr. Tai to return to those corporations and regardless of their brand, suggest that there be an opportunity to soften the large buildings and give them a more elegant look. Councilmember McGovern referred to the wall and she asked if it was anticipated that it would be the City's responsibility to landscape on the park side of the wall. Mr. Tai said this has been contemplated. Commissioner Fox referred to the car wash, the park, and wall stating the car wash is fairly close to what is envisioned to be residential, and she questioned if it could be moved. Mr. Tai said this was not cast in stone; however, they try to put car washes where there is a flow from where vehicles get serviced, cleaned and then return to the customer. Putting them large distances away adds time, so they try and locate them close and on the back sides of the facilities. He noted the car wash would be located approximately 200 feet away from residential and the area will incorporate a wall and heavy landscaping. Also, the car washes are built inside of an enclosure so noise can be attenuated in a certain direction. However, they have not done City CounciVPlanning Commission 4 November 8, 2007 Joint Workshop