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are front-loaded and all deliveries are made through the front doors, which is not uncommon in shopping centers. Mr. Grant said one problem with dense landscaping is sign visibility, which must be balanced. They love street trees but it is tough on retailers because it conceals the architecture and signage. Commissioner Narum referred to the south end of the plan by the community park and asked what the plans were for landscaping to create a buffer there. Mr. Grant said their landscaping concept consists of trees where there are no carports, a 10 foot high screen wall at the loading docks and the grid for climbing plants grow up above that. On the back side of the recycling structure there are climbing plants, green screens added to the back of the facade, all columns are wrapped with a woven wire mesh which is a common device for climbing plants and they may have some berming, as well. He confirmed there was no solid wall, but a living and growing wall of plants. Commissioner O'Connor said since the shops will be front loaded, he asked and confirmed with Mr. Grant that certain hours will be built into the tenant's standard leases for deliveries. Commissioner Perece said the staff report indicates the existence of a fast food restaurant to be allowed as a permitted use and she asked if allowed, where it would go, Mr. Grant said the restaurants typically like to be located on corners, they like visibility and there was not one currently shown on the plans. Mayor Hosterman asked that there be no fast food restaurants, and Mr. Allen said they do not anticipate any drive-thru's or convenient type fast foods, but other cafe type restaurants like Rubio's. Mr. Grant pointed out a location on the map for an outdoor bistro type operation, deli or cafe, and said it is important for them to make the areas active, live and friendly spaces. Commissioner Perece confirmed with Mr. Grant that the drive-through drug store's traffic flow cuts across the pedestrian access to the park, and that the traffic from the drive-through would be low volume. Mr. Grant said these types of drug stores are approved typically where no drive- thru restaurants are allowed and he felt this would not be a critical issue. Commissioner Olson asked if the retail center was afreeway-oriented center or a neighborhood oriented retail center, and Mr. Allen said they are proposing commercial regional because of the location; however, it was sort of neighborhood as well because with senior housing, they felt it would also serve that neighborhood.. Commissioner Olson referred to the pad next to the bank pad; Shops 1. She asked if it was 7 distinct stores or was it less. Mr. Grant said it could potentially be 35 retail stores; that all lines defined potential walls, but a tenant may want to take more than one space. Councilmember Sullivan said it looks like the project is centered inward on the parking lot and the backs of the buildings are along major streets and the park. He asked if the developer considered having it the other way where it is more open to the community versus enclosed into itself. Mr. Grant said the philosophies of most cities have been to push buildings to the corner and street and not have parking lots as the primary visual element from streets. What they end up with is a highly animated exterior face so that the buildings become the screening devices for the field of parking in the middle. Also, the Majors is 30,000 square feet, their parking field extends far into the area which allows for shared parking that works for other shops. He said it City CounciUPlanning Commission 10 November 8, 2007 Joint Workshop