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like on Pleasanton's ridges and asked the Council to come up with a plan that has smaller homes and less impact. Karla Brown said the development can approve homes up to 12,000 square feet, distributed photographs of what a Piedmont 10,500 square foot home looked like, a 8,847 square foot home on 20 acres of wine grapes on Vineyard which resembles a village, and the cut plan from the Planning Commission showing that 7,000 cubic yards of dirt will be removed in the project. The red zone for Lot 39 cuts 43 feet off the top of the ridgeline, which is like afour-story building. Lots 16 and 17 are almost all fill which will cause many cracks to the houses, and she presented pictures of what the area looks like now and said it should stay this way. Kay Ayala asked the Council to deny the second reading of the project because the citizens who spoke did their own research, met with staff and presented new information tonight on the environment which is of major importance regarding the native plant habitat that was overlooked. She hoped the scientific community and the public will have the opportunity to further review and work with the developer and city to reduce the grading impacts on native plant species as the planning process continues, which she felt needed to be done first prior to approving the project. Secondly, the process set up left out the communities of Vintage Hills, Grey Eagle and Ruby Hill. She felt story poles should have been put up. She said the developer agreement has been engineered so that if the PUD is subject to referendum, then the agreement still stands. If the development agreement is subject to referendum then the open space would not be in place. She asked Council to not approve the ordinances without putting in language in both the development agreement and PUD that negate each other if one is subject to a referendum. She said they plan a referendum on the PUD. David Stark said over 20 years ago, the Council made a visionary decision that was also subject to a referendum. The Hacienda Business Park is now celebrating its 25~' anniversary and he felt there were many benefits as a result. He asked the Council to support the Oak Grove development, urged the community to support it as well as he felt the benefits were manifold, and creating the recreation opportunity could not be bypassed. Debra Wahl, Trails Ad Hoc Committee member, said she was in support of the Oak Grove project, felt it was a good compromise and unique opportunity for the City in the 496 acres of open space and trails. She said if not done, the space will be accessible to no one, and no one knows what will come back if not approved. Jerry Pentin, said he has been involved in various committees and commissions, said he knows the initiative and referendum will pit neighbor against neighbor and friend against friend, and said the issue is to keep their park. He felt there are those who will attempt to deny them of the park, said a group of residents have chosen not to let this happen and they are willing to educate residents to understand both sides of the issue. When properly informed, they will decline to sign any initiative or referendum concerning Oak Grove. Their committee, Keep Our Park, can be viewed online. He felt safeguards are in place to protect ridges and view sheds, he doubts the mega-mansions could come to the Planning Commission and Council and pass with the examples seen, and he believed that if the initiative or referendum passed the opportunity to keep this open space may vanish which would be completely out of character. Mayor Hosterman asked Fire Chief Cody to speak on fire dangers in the hills. Fire Chief Cody said they evaluated the property's access, unique routes, the need for emergency vehicle access and evacuation routes for those living within the community. They measured these against the mitigation measures required and arrived at sprinkling buildings, defensible space, modeling the fuel for grasslands based on how fires behave, and the Fire Department City Council Minutes 8 November 6, 2007