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Ms. Decker wished to clarify that with respect to traffic, Mike Tassano has been working on finding the best fit for this project in terms of circulation in and out of the site. Traffic studies were generally based on peak hour trips, and the trips in this request were all off-peak. She noted that the St. Elizabeth Seton did not entail a traffic study because the trips would occur during off-peak hours. She suggested that if the Planning Commission believed that a traffic study would be appropriate, the request be phrased in terms of a detailed special study regarding traffic impacts to the surrounding area and the travel patterns in terms of other churches and congregations and uses in the surrounding areas during off-peak hours. She noted that there were State requirements in place which determined roadway speeds and whether or not a signal would be justified based on warrants. She noted that it would be most appropriate for staff to evaluate the existing volumes, traffic, and other indicators and determine if signal lights or other traffic-calming devices could be successfully implemented in the area. Commissioner Blank noted that while the traffic studies were complete in terms of volume, they did not always address safety issues. He noted that he had marked off a distance with his car on that road to get a sense of the speed, and he did not believe the signs made any difference. He had seen cars traveling at what he would conservatively estimate to be 80 mph. He was most concerned with the speed on that road, and believed that traffic calming measures may be effective. Ms. Decker did not know what could be done outside the City boundary and, at Commissioner Blank’s request, displayed the parcels that lay inside and outside City boundaries. Ms. Seto noted that when the City makes an application to LAFCO, as part of the application, they had to discuss what roads and what other kinds of utilities the City would take over to become part of the City. She believed that may become an issue to be studied by the City and that there may be a situation where from a traffic standpoint, there may be a more logical endpoint of City control that could be included in the application to LAFCO. Commissioner Blank pointed out a location on the map where he believed it would be reasonable for the City to annex in order to calm the traffic. In response to an inquiry by Commissioner Blank regarding some of the City’s options, Ms. Seto replied that the City could extend the area that would be proposed to be annexed in terms of the road portion. In response to an inquiry by Commissioner Blank regarding the owner of the property above the red line, Ms. Decker replied that it was the State right-of-way. Commissioner Olson would like to see a signal at the primary property entrance and suggested that the applicant ask the County for a signal on the other side of the blind curve that flashed when the light was red. He did not think the proposed turn lanes will be sufficient to provide the level of safety he would like to have. He suggested putting a signal in the blue portion for entry and exit into Canyon Creek Circle. He noted that he drove this road frequently and added that it was a speedway. He agreed with Ms. Decker PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES August 8, 2007 Page 16 of 24