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Assistant City Manager Bocian indicated staff would incorporate the comments from Council into the final draft for final approval. If there are comments made that are of concern to others, then that should be stated now. Mayor Hosterman and Mr. Sullivan liked the language the way it was presented. Councilmember McGovern did not think that 100% sustainability was achievable. Principal Planner Stern acknowledged that was a goal, but agreed it may not be achievable. Councilmember Sullivan said it was not in the policy section, but rather in the text. It is an explanation of what a sustainable city could be and it says we will embrace the concept. It doesn't say we will achieve it absolutely. Director Iserson suggested the wording say, "the ideal of a sustainable city is to . . . ." That gets the information out but clarifies that it is not something we know we can achieve. Council member McGovern suggested saying "a sustainable city strives to draw from the environment. . ." There was agreement on that wording. Councilmember Brozosky did not think there should be a water element. This General Plan has been a painful, drawn out process and he did not want to do anything that would extend the process. It has taken four years to get to this point and probably another year to complete it. On heritage tree definition, page 8, it says 55 inches in circumference, but he noted it was actually more than that. It is circumference at a certain height. He wanted that added to the definition. He referred to Mr. Sullivan's comment about restoring the arroyos and asked restoring them to what. Technically, arroyos do not have running water and go dry periodically. We have added water to them and changed the environment. He indicated he had already spoken about the Ahwanhee Principles and they had been distributed to Council before. He asked staff why it was necessary to have a separation between cities. Principal Planner Stern believed it had to do with the anti-sprawl idea and the desire to have a distinct community. People like to know where they are and it also speaks to the community character or to provide a sense of place. Councilmember Brozosky did not want people to think Pleasanton wanted to separate itself from its neighbors. Director Iserson referred to Santa Clara County where a person driving on the EI Camino can go from one city to another and not know it. They all blend together. The separation would be a way of making Pleasanton something special. Mayor Hosterman appreciated the comments from Planning Commissioners in minutes supporting the first item on the agenda. She commented the General Plan is just that, general. It is a document filled with broad based public policy that examines how a city may look in the years to come. It is a living document that changes. She is pleased with most of the Elements as written. Regarding the Conservation and Open Space Element, she believed it was a very good document. However, she had two issues of concern. General Plan Workshop Minutes 20 August 29, 2006