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There was a break at 9:17 p.m. The meeting was reconvened at 9:30 p.m. Mayor Hosterman thanked all those who attended the meeting and presented their input. Trish Maas referred to the calculation of residential density for property and indicated she liked it the way it is and did not want to see it go any higher. She did not want to encourage higher density or smaller units for this area of town. She believed the Valley Trails proposal was an in-fill project and had confidence the city would do it in the right way. She did not want the large homes Ponderosa typically builds. However, the smaller the homes, the higher the density and the more people there would be. She felt it made sense to build homes similar to what already exists in the neighborhood. Mary Roberts referred to the debate of large lots, small lots and affordable by design homes on the west side of Foothill. These are slopped properties and she did not think that could be done very well. There is also the urban growth boundary to be considered. The General Plan has a policy to have larger lots as you approach the urban growth boundary. Having a higher density, particularly along Dublin Canyon Road, would not be in conformance with the present General Plan. She felt it would encourage more development outside of the urban growth boundary, which would be a problem because it requires a vote of the people to change that. The Westbrook property is highly constrained because of the creek on one side and the freeway on the other side. She did not want small units on the Lester property. Regarding the Eliasen property, she referred to a letter from Mr. Eliasen in which he acknowledged he was allowed three lots. She commented that Wayne Rasmussen had walked the Vineyard Corridor properties and put dots on the map to show where it was environmentally safe to build houses. She felt that should be done in the Foothill area. She said the BART proposal was intriguing. She believed medium density housing would be appropriate for the church property. She reminded people that this is a workshop and there is a lot more time to review and discuss the proposed project. The only real discussion is on rezoning before the General Plan. She then referred to the Guesthouse Inn and restaurant and did not understand how any of the businesses has survived. She reiterated the fact there would be many public hearings and sensitivity to the surrounding neighbors. She did not know what was happening with the Knuppe property. Ann Fox believed medium density residential should be split into two categories because there is such a wide range (2-8 units per acre). She felt better ranges would be 2-5 and 6-8. Most proposals seem to be in the 7-8 units per acre. She would like staff to review the Lester property and explain why it had a public health and safety designation. She wanted staff to look at what the proposed population is, the demographics, and what percentage of households will need two incomes based upon the projected cost of new housing. She would then like staff to work with Child Care Links to come up with what they believe should be the public and institutional land within the city. She preferred to have that macro review before looking at individual properties to change them from public and institutional to residential designations. She did not believe neighborhoods would approve having a 30-80 person child care facility, especially when she sees the concern about even a small family child-care home being increased to 8-14. Regarding the BART proposal, she felt it was necessary to have a grocery store and other mixed use near 350 units of residential. She wanted staff to create a land use designation of mixed use so it is easier to review high density residential, which is pure housing as opposed to those high density residential projects that have a component of retail as well. Joint Workshop City Council/Planning Commission 14 03/01/06