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Mr. Sullivan said there has been much discussion about affordable housing, ways to achieve it and ways to fund it. As part of the General Plan update process, he would like to have a workshop specifically on affordable housing, the best way to do it, options, what the community wants, and see if there is interest in pursuing those goals. Mr. Brozosky indicated the Housing Commission has been asked to prioritize the in-lieu fee, which is just part of this. There is confusion on what is workforce housing and affordable housing, whether it is only subsidized or affordable by design. The Housing Commission does not look at affordable by design, it looks at how to get to the low and very low-income housing and that can't be done with affordable by design. Mr. Brozosky had this discussion at the Chamber of Commerce meeting a couple of weeks ago and there is no general consensus on what all these things mean or how to accomplish it. He was uncertain a joint workshop is the way to do this or to ask a Commission to review the matters. Ms. Roberts believed a commission had several workshops on affordable housing four or five years ago. Mr. Brozosky said that was more on opportunities in the Tri-Valley but did not include definitions. It was a forum to present different programs as opposed to getting feedback from the community. Mayor Hosterman felt that as we move through the subject matter, there are different special interest groups that come up with great ideas. Every time they do, a new word is added to the vocabulary. Most think they understand what it means, for instance workforce housing, but as months and years go by and new words pop up, people are no longer certain of definitions. Mr. Fialho indicated there are three or four workshops reserved for the future and suggested setting aside time to discuss some of the techniques for establishing affordability. The Council and community can be informed and can set forth what kind of broad policy perspective to take as part of the General Plan update. Ms. McGovern felt it was not just the type of affordable housing offered but also the city's ability to meet the needs from a financial standpoint. She did not think the community realized that low and very low income housing is always subsidized and the city has to find out how to do that financially, especially when approaching build out when there will not be many more units built. Mr. Fialho suggested starting at a broad level and then refine concepts later. Ms. McGovern asked if the increased density downtown would be part of future workshop discussions. Mr. Fialho said staff has not included anything downtown because it was one of the areas specifically excluded from this General Plan update. Pleasanton City Council Special Meeting 8 11/29/05