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Mayor Hosterman stated that Mr. Plemmons may not have a voting right in Hacienda, but he certainly did when it came to the City Council. Mr. Iserson clarified that no application was being approved at this meeting, which is why staff did not present the 115 conditions of approval usually attached to applications. Judith Geiselman, 2602 Glen Isle Avenue, also appreciated the presentation and the comments of the Planning Commissioners and Councilmembers. If land currently used for BART parking is changed to residential development, it is critical for BART to provide other parking alternatives available before that land use is changed. She has changed her mind about using BART when no parking is available. She referred to Harbor Bay Isle in Alameda, which was a huge business park with residential units. As time went by, the land uses were changed. She noted the homeowners associations did have a good working relationship with the business community and suggested Pleasanton investigate that situation. She was not in favor of raising the housing cap, but did support affordable housing. No matter where construction occurs in Pleasanton, it will add traffic. It will be difficult to determine which will be the best way to increase the traffic the least. She would like to see transit-oriented development and noted she would use the retail businesses if they were of interest to her. There were no other speakers. 4. NEXT STEPS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY COUNCIL OR COMMISSION Brian Arkin noted Hacienda has 1.8 million square feet of entitlement and will be adding 200,000 square feet of retail. He asked if that retail came from the entitlement or was in addition to it? If Wal-Mart came from the entitlements, then other retail should be treated the same way. Mr. Paxson said that would be reviewed. This is part of the input they wanted from the Commission and Council. They would look at different scenarios. Mr. Arkin felt this was a great presentation and the project has a lot of potential. He wanted to see the next phase. Traffic is a concern. If houses are moved from other parts of the city to here, then traffic should be reduced in other parts of the city as well. He believed a mixed use was great for the Carr America facility because it is across from existing apartments as well as shopping at the Wal-Mart and other stores. There is housing shown on West Las Positas and he did not see how that would fit in the proposal, since it does not include mixed use. He felt this concept could be expanded to other properties. The PeopleSoft and Oracle campuses have parking lots next to proposed mixed uses, so perhaps there could be a parking structure built and the flat part used for other mixed uses. He noted the comment that there would not be shops that would detract from downtown and was uncertain how that could be controlled. He referred to the mixed use between the BART station and across Owens Drive and said he would like to see a wide pedestrian walkway over Owens that would tie the projects Joint Workshop City CounciVPlanning Commission 11 10/25/05