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Ms. Stern said all of the first five (Kottinger Place, Ridgeview Commons, Division Street, Stanley Junction and Pleasanton Gardens) are affordable on some level; either moderate, low or very low. The Gardens at Ironwood have 138 affordable units. Jennifer Pearce asked about the substantial entrance fee for the proposed development. Mr. Cook said people pay two ways, an entrance fee and a monthly fee. The entrance fees range from $200,000 to $800,000. Most people will sell a house and use a portion of the proceeds for the entrance fee. There are many things being provided. Most people who come to this development either cannot get long term care insurance or it is very expensive. Ms. Pearce asked about the length of the emergency vehicle access road. She thought it was about 900 feet. Mr. Cook said it was actually about 800 feet. That has not yet been designed and is dependent upon the requirements of the emergency vehicles and the surrounding development of the auto mall. Trish Maas asked how closely the senior facility and car dealership is tied in the application? Mr. Iserson said these are tied very closely. Mr. Cook explained that the property is unincorporated and there must be an application to LAFCO (Local Agency Formation Commission). LAFCO's rules indicated a property must be rezoned before annexation and the zoning must stay in place for two years. The developers want to go into the city knowing what is going to happen and from a physical standpoint it is very difficult to plan unless it is known what will happen to the majority of the property. Ms. Maas asked who will decided whether these are considered housing units or not? Mr. Iserson said it is the City Council's decision with input from the Planning Commission. Ms. Maas said if these units are not considered housing units then they do not apply to the goals that are to be met under the Housing Element. Mr. Iserson said staff would work with the developer and the County to try to get some affordability into the project. It would not have to follow the inclusionary zoning ordinance, but the Housing Element has identified 79 affordable housing units on this site. It is the city's position to use any opportunity possible to find affordable units for seniors. Ms. Maas said if these were considered as housing units then it would apply to the housing cap and would be in competition with other units in the city. Mr. Iserson said that was correct. Jerry Thorne felt this project seemed isolated and wondered if thought had been given to how to evacuate this many seniors in the event of an emergency. He wanted to see a specific plan prepared. Mr. Cook said if there were some kind of disaster, he felt the problem would not be getting people out, but rather keeping others from coming in because this facility is so well built and well Joint Workshop City CounciVPlanning Commission 4 10/11/05